Prime Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) You don't have to be a chess player to solve this one. But you have to know the rules of chess. From starting position White moved 1) pawn f3, 2) King f2, 3) King g3, and 4) King h4. Find the moves for Black so that they checkmate White King on their 4th move. All moves must be legal. I gave this puzzle to many a chess master, and they all had very hard time solving it. Edited August 6, 2008 by Prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 White -- Black 1. f3 -- e5 2. Kf2 -- Qf6 3. Kg3 -- Qxf3 (this is the compliance bit the queen should be taken by the king, either pawn, or even the knight) 4. Kh4 -- Be7 checkmate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Unless I'm mistaken - you broke the rules - white has moved four times, black none ??? I guess knowing them and breaking them is two different things Edited August 6, 2008 by Lost in space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) Unless I'm mistaken - you broke the rules - white has moved four times, black none ??? I guess knowing them and breaking them is two different things Not at all. Black made their move after each White's move. Your task is to find those moves. White Black 1. f3 -- ? 2. Kf2 -- ? 3. Kg3 -- ? 4. Kh4 -- ? checkmate Replace question marks with the moves for Black. Edited August 6, 2008 by Prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Gambit Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Think i may have my numbers mixed here... White Black 1. f3 -- pawn g6 2. Kf2 -- pawn f6 3. Kg3 -- bishop d6 4. Kh4 -- pawn f5 checkmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Gambit Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Think i may have my numbers mixed here... White Black 1. f3 -- pawn g6 2. Kf2 -- pawn f6 3. Kg3 -- bishop d6 4. Kh4 -- pawn f5 checkmate nope. sorry thats very wrong. i'll try again later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Gambit Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 White -- Black 1. f3 -- Pawn D5 2. Kf2 -- Pawn G6 3. Kg3 -- Queen D6 4. Kh4 -- Queen F4 checkmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rookie1ja Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 White -- Black 1. f3 -- Pawn D5 2. Kf2 -- Pawn G6 3. Kg3 -- Queen D6 4. Kh4 -- Queen F4 checkmate I thought about that as well, however ... 5. pawn g4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Gambit Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 I thought about that as well, however ... 5. pawn g4 Sorry Rookie, I dont fully understand? Did you mean move Pawn g5 instead of moving Qf4? If you did then the king will be able to avoid Checkmate by moving Kh5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 rookie1ja Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Sorry Rookie, I dont fully understand? Did you mean move Pawn g5 instead of moving Qf4? If you did then the king will be able to avoid Checkmate by moving Kh5 I mean that the white g-pawn can get in the way ... see the picture below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 White -- Black 1. f3 -- d6 (d5 Would also work) 2. Kf2 -- H6 (f6 would also work) 3. Kg3 -- Qa5 4. Kh4 -- Qg5 checkmate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Gambit Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) White -- Black 1. f3 -- d6 (d5 Would also work) 2. Kf2 -- H6 (f6 would also work) 3. Kg3 -- Qa5 4. Kh4 -- Qg5 checkmate Howzit norm To move Qa5 you would have to move the Pawn in c7... I've only managed to get to Checkmate in 5 moves so far. hope someone posts the ans soon Edited August 6, 2008 by Gambit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Howzit norm To get move Qa5 you would have to move the Pawn in c7... I've only managed to get to Checkmate in 6 moves so far. hope someone posts the ans soon Good Point back to the drawing board. (or should I try the Chess board ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guest Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Howzit norm To move Qa5 you would have to move the Pawn in c7... I've only managed to get to Checkmate in 6 moves so far. hope someone posts the ans soonWhat's the mint sauce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 White -- Black 1. f3 -- e5 2. Kf2 -- Qf6 3. Kg3 -- Qxf3 (this is the compliance bit the queen should be taken by the king, either pawn, or even the knight) 4. Kh4 -- Be7 checkmate Congratulations Normdeplume! That's the solution and the only solution! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 And thanks to Rookie1ja and Gambit for showing how some other variations submitted here were not a solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Prime Posted August 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (edited) And here is the illustration of the solution:Position after 4 moves: 1. f3? e6 2. Kf2?? Qf6 3. Kg3?? Q:f3+?? 4. Kh4?? Be7 checkmate (0-1) Edited August 6, 2008 by Prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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You don't have to be a chess player to solve this one. But you have to know the rules of chess.
From starting position White moved 1) pawn f3, 2) King f2, 3) King g3, and 4) King h4.
Find the moves for Black so that they checkmate White King on their 4th move.
All moves must be legal.
I gave this puzzle to many a chess master, and they all had very hard time solving it.
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