[Guest]

Ladies and gentlemen,

Although we may have the best of intentions, to play well together, misunderstandings and disagreements are always possible. In a game this is even more likely if there is ambiguity in the rules and so I'd suggest that we identify the rules that we want to govern this game (and then restart it).

The Sixy Rollo thread was only setup for a variant of and the identified issues aren't unique to this variant but as this is a much younger thread maybe its easier to change the rules or effectively restart the thread entirely.

I propose that we tighten up the rules definitions that apply to it, so that everyone can feel that they know where they stand when playing.

When this Sixy Rollo thread was started there was some concern that the host might be unduly advantaged by the increase to six letter words, but after several rounds I think that the existing points regime still seems to be reasonably balanced. I'd propose that we open up the word length so that the new host can freely choose the word length.

Proposed New (Free) Rollo Rules

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Someone thinks of a # letter word and posts a prompt for people to start guessing "?????? (# letters)".

The word to be guessed should be recognizably 'English' and proper nouns should be avoided but some names are arguably generic enough to qualify. To be practical, a suggested word length is between 4 and 14 letters.

People begin by guessing # letter words with the following limitations:

* You may only guess 1 word in a post, with an optional proof for one or more letters using either existing scored words or predicted scores for as yet unscored words including the new word;

* Any number of qualified or unqualified proofs may be provided in a post BUT only one new word;

* Guesses must also be words although proper nouns are allowed; AND

* You must allow a gap of 2 minutes between successive posts to allow an opportunity for other guessers. The host will not consider more frequent posts.

When a word is guessed, the host puts a number next to the word signifying how many letters were in the correct position. You cannot 'win' by just guessing some of the right letters though, to earn points you must either:

* "logick" one of the letters via an explanation of why that letter has to be logically 100% in that position; OR

* correctly identify the entire word.

It is the responsibility of the host to ensure that guesses are valid (see rules above) and that "logick" explanations (proofs) really are complete. Note that we are all human so the host may need some help.

When the host accepts a "logick" explanation, a question-mark is replaced with that letter ( ???Z?? ) and the person that posted the "logick" for the letter gets 5 points per proven letter. When the final letter is "logicked", or a player posts the entire word as a guess then that player gets 10 points for the final letter instead of the usual 5. The host is awarded 1 point per guessed word and 5 points per incorrectly "logicked" letter/position.

[Guest]

If its a valid word use it...however due to the rising use of programs I have stayed away some from words that can be quickly narrowed down by a lucky guess or two. COCCOID I felt would have been difficult to guess CC so I took a chance with it...to me part of the fun is trying to come up with a word that will score you some points.

[Guest]

I was thinking about the scoring a bit. Perhaps it would be better to set a cap on the score obtainable from guessing the word correctly. This would put more weight on the points obtained from proving letters, which seems to be a major portion of the game.

For instance, if 7-Rollo results in zero letters proved and then the word properly guessed the winner would get 40 points. If the score was limited to 10 points for the final guess, then it might be worthwhile to prove some letters first. It would put a bit more strategy on when to try and guess the final word, thus eliminating anyone else getting points from guessing letters, and when to take the time to prove out some letters.

Thoughts ?

[Guest]

I was thinking about the scoring a bit. Perhaps it would be better to set a cap on the score obtainable from guessing the word correctly. This would put more weight on the points obtained from proving letters, which seems to be a major portion of the game.

For instance, if 7-Rollo results in zero letters proved and then the word properly guessed the winner would get 40 points. If the score was limited to 10 points for the final guess, then it might be worthwhile to prove some letters first. It would put a bit more strategy on when to try and guess the final word, thus eliminating anyone else getting points from guessing letters, and when to take the time to prove out some letters.

Thoughts ?

I like it, but be mindful that there are those who prefer finding the words and not proving the letters...

additionally though, if they know the word they should try to prove it first via letters...

[Guest]

I was thinking about the scoring a bit. Perhaps it would be better to set a cap on the score obtainable from guessing the word correctly. This would put more weight on the points obtained from proving letters, which seems to be a major portion of the game.

For instance, if 7-Rollo results in zero letters proved and then the word properly guessed the winner would get 40 points. If the score was limited to 10 points for the final guess, then it might be worthwhile to prove some letters first. It would put a bit more strategy on when to try and guess the final word, thus eliminating anyone else getting points from guessing letters, and when to take the time to prove out some letters.

Agree - this would encourage proofs over just outright guessing.

This also appears to be more in keeping with unreality's original thread/op; in that it was never stated that the guesser of the whole word was entitled to the points as if all letters had been individually proven.

The scoring rule could then be stated as:

SCORING - Standard (5/logicked letter & 10/complete word for Guessers, 1/incorrect guess & 5/flawed logick for Host)

rather than being...

SCORING - Standard (5/logicked letter, bonus 5/final letter, 1/guess for host)

...as it is now (which was also missing the flawed logick points)

OK?

P.S. Must be about time to implement this isn't it?

This poll/thread has been going for over 6 weeks.

Edited May 28, 2011 by WombatBreath

[Guest]

I've started a new thread and summarised the rules in the opening post.

To give the scoring a good test, I've started off with an eleven letter word...