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#11 Scraff

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 09:31 PM

If the match being dropped had to cause the flame, it would read "if and only if a match were dropped on it".

No, it wouldn't. The riddle stating "so that if you drop a match on it" means the action of dropping the match on the paper must be responsible in some way for one to see flames.


Outside the box answer:

Spoiler for b

But dropping a match is not the cause of your friend lighting kindling.

You could cover it with a thin sheet of metal, or any other nonflammable solid that completely covers it, then a second piece of paper, and drop the lit match onto that.

You could put it at the bottom of a bucket of alcohol and drop the match on that. You would definitely see flames, and the paper wouldn't burn for a long time

The match is not being dropped on the paper in either of those examples.


mabey you could drop an unlit match on a piece of paper an look at a fire

Again, the riddle states that dropping a match on the paper will be the cause of flames to be visible.
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#12 Dragon

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 07:11 PM

place the paper under glass, then drop a lit match on top of it. Technically the match (and flame) will be on the paper, while the paper will not burn. Regardless of how people argue simantics, the author it seems needs to reveal the answer or this is going no where...
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#13 Lizard

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 09:09 PM

Spoiler for spoiler

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#14 mendigs

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 09:30 PM

A match is a match even if it hasn't been lit yet...so don't light it! Then if you drop it on the paper...no flames!
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Posted 22 February 2008 - 09:32 PM

A match is a match even if it hasn't been lit yet...so don't light it! Then if you drop it on the paper...no flames!


I read more thouroughly...you need to see flames...so. Light the match, see the flame and then drop the then dead match on the paper.
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#16 Scraff

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 09:53 PM

I read more thouroughly...you need to see flames...so. Light the match, see the flame and then drop the then dead match on the paper.

Read even a little more thoroughly. If you light the match, then that will be the action that causes you to see flames. The riddle states "What can you do paper so that if you drop a match on it you will see flames and not burn the paper?" You have done nothing to the paper so it won't burn; you've done something to the match.

Edited by Scraff, 22 February 2008 - 09:55 PM.

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#17 jesusfreak1024

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 10:10 PM

Read even a little more thoroughly. If you light the match, then that will be the action that causes you to see flames. The riddle states "What can you do paper so that if you drop a match on it you will see flames and not burn the paper?" You have done nothing to the paper so it won't burn; you've done something to the match.


i agree-dropping the match on the paper will cause you to see flames

btw - i believe Martini's original answer is the best :P
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#18 lvrgrlvsherboy

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Posted 23 February 2008 - 05:30 AM

i agree-dropping the match on the paper will cause you to see flames

btw - i believe Martini's original answer is the best :P


just to let you know his way is right and i have done it before. unless someone has a magical match that when lit the fire only burns the match and not paper...wait would it be the match that is magical or the fire....ponder that one :P
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#19 grottylittlewanker

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 05:27 AM

What can you do paper so that if you drop a match on it you will see flames and not burn the paper?


The truth qualities of an if statement are such that the statement is false ONLY when the first condition is true and the outcome is false. Meaning that when the first condition is false, the entire statement is true no matter what the second one is.

Therefore the statement "if you drop a match on [the paper], then you will see flames AND not burn the paper" is true when:
you drop the match, see flames, and don't burn the paper;
you don't drop the match, see flames, burn the paper (this is what happens if you burn it before the dropping of the match)
you don't drop the match, see flames, don't burn the paper (this is what happens if you have a picture of the flames on the paper)
you don't drop the match, don't see flames, burn the paper (this is... kind of hard to do...)
you don't drop the match, don't see flames, don't burn the paper (ummm idk what situation this pertains to... haha)

So multiple solutions are correct.
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Posted 29 February 2008 - 10:05 AM

Plain and simple..... DROP a BURNING MATCH on a WATER soaked PAPER. You will see flames when the match is going down...but it will go off.
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