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Mega Einstein Riddle

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I wish to post a "zebra puzzle" (hard-grid puzzle or Einstein-type of riddle) with 16 houses and 20 variables. May I do so here? It's never been posted before as I have created this one myself.

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1 hour ago, Buddyboy3000 said:

One question did come up to me, because something does not add up.

106 says do-wop and grunge are listened to in the fifth or sixth house. 157 says that the house opposite of house 5 listens to metal, which would be the sixth house. These say that the sixth house listens to two types of music.

Hi Buddyboy,

I've changed clue 106 to read like this: "Do-wop and grunge music are listened to in the fifth and sixth houses, but not necessarily in that respective order." Thus, I'm referring to #9 and 11 or #10 and 12 (E-W).

Clue 157 specifically states "directly opposite house #5", not the "fifth" house! ["Opposite" meaning across the road or N-S]

Regards, C

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3 hours ago, Buddyboy3000 said:

One question did come up to me, because something does not add up.

106 says do-wop and grunge are listened to in the fifth or sixth house. 157 says that the house opposite of house 5 listens to metal, which would be the sixth house. These say that the sixth house listens to two types of music.

 
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Anyone having any luck? I keep running into contradictions and I can't tell whether or not it's just me. . .

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It would be more fun if there were five of us in a room working on it together. I've been distracted by other things lately but still interested.

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That would be nice. I tried 3 or so times and I'm convinced there's either a contradiction or I'm misinterpreting one of the clues. If I remember correctly, my problem keeps having something to do with Kenya and HK.

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Board game
Chess
Game of Life
Mastermind
Monopoly
Pictionary
Risk
Taj Mahal
Trivial Pursuit
Car
BMW
Audi
Jaguar
Lexus
Mercedes Benz
Nissan
Rolls Royce
Volvo
Car Colour
azure
black
bronze
gold
indigo
maroon
peridot
silver
Drink
beer
barley
fruit juice
soda
tea
vodka
water
whiskey
Flower
anemone
daffodil
daisy
magnolia
marigold
poppy
protea
tulip
Food
curry'n'rice
beef
chicken
eggs
lamb
lobster
nuts
sushi
Fruit
apples
figs
mangoes
pears
plums
pomegranate
quince
tangerines
Herbs/Spice
basil
mace
parsley
pepper
rosemary
sage
sorrel
thyme
Hobbies
bird watching
coins
dancing
gardening
skydiving
stamps
Sudoku
woodworking
House Colour
white
blue
cream
ebony
lime
pink
red
violet
Instrument
drums
guitar
harmonica
piano
piccolo
saxophone
trumpet
ukelele
Music
classical
country
do-wop
gospel
grunge
pop
punk
reggae
Nationality
Dane
Dutchman
Englishman
Fin
French
German
Italian
Portuguese
Occupation
bank manager
broker
dentist
doctor
engineer
geologist
lawyer
scientist
Pets/Animals
fish
cats
deer
dogs
frogs
hedgehogs
lizards
snakes
Smoke
Pall Mall
Camel
Dunhill
Gauloises
Kent
Lexington
Marlboro
Winston
Sport
athletics
cricket
gymnastics
hockey
karate
soccer
tennis
wrestling
Vegetable
beans
cauliflower
gem squash
potatoes
pumpkin
spinach
tomatoes
zucchini
Country visited
America
Australia
Brazil
Egypt
Hong Kong
Japan
South Africa
Zanzibar
Zodiac
Aries
Cancer
Gemini
Libra
Pisces
Scorpio
Taurus
Virgo

This is what I've got for odd categories. Anyone else get the same?

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Odds

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  1 3 5 7 9 11 13 15
Game trivial monopoly pictionary mastermind life chess taj risk
Car BMW Mercedes Royce Volvo Audi Lexus Jaguar Nissan
Car color gold Black maroon bronze silver indigo peridot azure
Drink beer soda whiskey tea vodka fruit juice water barley
Flower daisy magnolia tulip anemone protea daffodil poppy marigold
Food curry lamb beef lobster chicken eggs nuts sushi
Fruit apples pears tangerine pomegranate plum figs quince mangoes
Herbs parsley rosemary pepper sage sorrel thyme basil mace
Hobbies stamps dancing birdwatching skydiving woodworking coins gardening sudoku
House color white ebony violet blue pink lime red cream
Instrument guitar drum sax piano trumpet harmonica uke piccolo
Music classical country pop reggae do-wop grunge punk gospel
Nationality Dane Dutch French English Italian Portuguese German Fin
Occupation doctor scientist lawyer broker dentist bank engineer geologist
Pets fish frogs lizard cat snakes hedgehog dogs deer
Smoke pall mall kent lexington gauloises camel marlboro dunhill winston
Sport soccer athletics cricket hockey tennis gymnast wrestling karate
Vegetable pumpkin cauliflower bean potato spinach tomatoes zucchini gem squash
Country SA Australia America Brazil Japan HK Zanzibar Egypt
Zodiac libra Virgo? cancer Gemini scorpio taurus aries pisces

 

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Hamsters are raised in the third house away from the brown house

If hamsters were 1, would third house away be 3 houses over (7) or 3 houses between (9)?

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Evens. Can't pin down a few things which makes me think some of these are wrong. Thoughts? Other answers?

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  2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16
Board game Scrabble Ticket to Ride Backgammon Stratego Cranium Mahjong Checkers Power Grid
Car Aston Martin Bentley Ferrari Lamborghini Renault Porsche McLaren Alfa Romeo
Car Colour lavender magenta ??? sienna ??? ??? ??? emerald
Country visited Canada New Zealand China Russia Argentina India Kenya Jamaica
Drink cane rum coffee lemonade milk cola cider wine
Flower carnation aster hyacinth zinnia dahlia heather jasmine rose
Food veal pork liver sausage oxtail turkey casserole venison
Fruit peaches berries melons bananas apricots pineapple guavas papaya
Herbs/Spice turmeric mint saffron coriander cloves oregano paprika cinnamon
Hobbies sculpting cooking gambling DIY models minerals taxidermy magic
House Colour brown grey yellow orange green bisque periwinkle khaki
Instrument bass guitar violin trombone organ flute banjo harp cello
Music jazz rock metal hip-hop blues rap psychobilly disco
Nationality Greek Belgian Swede Spaniard Norwegian Austrian Scotsman Swiss
Occupation artist inventor architect plumber ??? ??? ??? data analyst
Pets/Animals spiders monkeys horse hamsters birds bees rabbits pigs
Smoke Lucky Strike Embassy B & H Chesterfield Stuyvesant Texan Rothmans Gunston
Sport cycling basketball rugby golfing volleyball skiing boxing shooting
Vegetable peas lettuce celery carrots onions cucumber leeks aubergine
Zodiac Taurus Sagittarius Pisces Aquarius Virgo Leo Gemini Capricorn

 

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@Thalia, your classification of odds and layout is perfect! Excellent work done so far! With regard to the evens, you score exactly 90 % as it stands. There are those question marks from you (car color and occupation), but the other areas to revise would be car make (and one car color), country visited and make a little correction to flowers.

To answer your question ... if hamsters were in #1, then 3 houses away would be #7, i.e. 2 houses in between. Well done, you're almost there!

I'll submit the full solution (as one of several valid solving orders) once the complete answer is known!

Regards, RDM (Chris)

 

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Guessing these are the wrong ones

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Aston
Bentley
McLaren
magenta
scarley
turquoise
cyan
ivory
aster
carnation
astronomer
pilot
zoologist
Canada
India
New Zealand

Updated guesses as the mentioned categories. Still trouble with cyan and turquoise.

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  2 4 6 8 10 12 14 16
Car Bentley McLaren Ferrari Lamborghini Renault Porsche Aston Martin Alfa Romeo
Car Colour lavender scarlet ??? sienna ??? magenta ivory emerald
Flower aster carnation hyacinth zinnia dahlia heather jasmine rose
Occupation artist inventor architect plumber pilot zoologist astronomer data analyst
Country visited India Canada China Russia Argentina New Zealand Kenya Jamaica

 

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Big apology - clue 251 should read "The visitor to China (NOT Kenya) does not drive a turquoise car". You should have it now! Congratulations!!! Awfully sorry for the mistake! Wasn't so hard after all, was it? Regards, C

Moderator, please make the necessary change in that line of your original text file! Thanks

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Ooh. So cyan 6, turquoise 10. Things started going a lot better once I had the odds and evens split and stopped using the standard grid. I think a large part of the challenge was having so many variables on a grid that if you make one mistake, it won't be immediately apparent. At that point, it's been easier to start over than pin down the mistake and all the ones based off of it.

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9 hours ago, rocdocmac said:

I'll soon post my file with the complete riddle: objective, revised clues, classifications, step-by-step solution, and answers

Since there are active solvers, you may want to hold off with the solution. It's your call, of course.

Another approach would be to drop a clue now and then (in a spoiler.)
It's really a great puzzle, and it would be a notable accomplishment to be the first solver.
B))

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4 hours ago, bonanova said:

Since there are active solvers, you may want to hold off with the solution. It's your call, of course.

Another approach would be to drop a clue now and then (in a spoiler.)
It's really a great puzzle, and it would be a notable accomplishment to be the first solver.
B))

Except for the step by step, I think all of that is already spread throughout the thread. RDM would mainly be condensing.

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On 2016/11/09 at 11:11 AM, rocdocmac said:

OK, will hold back for a while! I've only made one change afterwards. "Inventor" did not really fit in as an occupation. Renamed it to "optometrist", but irrelevant re the puzzle itself!! 

 

 

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On 11/9/2016 at 6:42 PM, Thalia said:

Except for the step by step, I think all of that is already spread throughout the thread. RDM would mainly be condensing.

Post away (spoilered) then ... Good job.

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