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a=-2; b=2

f(x) = x3+1/x3 is undefined for x=0 and has a limit of infinity for all positive x and negative infinity for all negative x. f(x) also has a limit of infinity as x approaches 0 from positive side and negative infinity for negative side.

This means that f(x) must have a local minimum for some positive value of x and a local maximum for some negative x.

 

Taking a derivative and assigning it to 0 will find these extremums.

f'(x) = 3x2-3/x4

 

Solving 3x2-3/x4=0 results in x6=1, which has 2 solutions x=-1 and x=1. Plugging these values of x into f(x) we get the minimum of -2 and the maximum of 2.

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I think I'm mis-translating from Math to English. In my mind, this says:

Find a and b such that there is no real x for which

a < q < b if and only if q = x3 + 1/x3, for all values of q

But the thing on the left of the "if and only if" is true for an open range of values of q while the thing on the right of the "if and only if" is true for exactly one value of q (except when x=0). So the "if and only if" can never be satisfied.

Do you have a different interpretation of the OP in mind?

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Multiplying both sides of the equation, x

3 + 1/x3 = q, by x3, and rearranging the equation in standard polynomial form, results in a sextic (aka hexic) polynomial:
x6 - qx3 + 1 = 0
The sextic polynomial has six roots, some of which may be multiple roots and degenerate roots. As the polynomial is with even degree, it has both a global maximum and global minimum in addition to local maximum(s) and local minimum(s).
By substituting a = x3, the discrimanant of the quadratic equation for the roots of a can be used to denote the inflection points of the polynomial. (One may also find these inflection points by taking the derivative of the function). These occur at -2 and 2.
If x = 0, we see the equation is undefined (1 = 0).
As x : x < -2 → -∞, q → -∞,
as x : x > 2 → +∞, q → +∞,
as x : x < -2 → 0-, q → -∞, and
as x : x > 2 → 0+, q → +∞.

 

Restated,
x3 + 1/x3 = q is discontinuous where x=0 (thus, not satisfied for that real x),
For a < q < b : q = 0,
a = lim [x→0-] x3+1/x3 = -
b = lim [x→0+] x3+1/x3 = +

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k-man (post #2) finds the region between local extrema and states (post 7) that in that region there is no real solution.

dejMar (post #6) finds the region where the discriminant is negative.

Both approaches give the right answer.

Post #6 is what I was looking for.

But before I mark it, I'll ask for comments regarding whether post #2 an equivalent condition for real solutions.

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