onetruth Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 NKs are not affected by anything except save. So, the real OOA is save>kill>block>trap>redirect. Both baddies discuss in BTSC whom to NK. One target is picked, and that person dies. Okay, but that contradicts the OP. I guess...good thing it's only D1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetruth Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123 Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana77 1. FreeOwn 2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini 3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers 4. araver 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 7. onetruth voting for mtamburini 8. Boquise 9. Auramyna 10. Barcallica 11. mtamburini That's as good of a place to start as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kikacat123 Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 My OP had a contradiction in it: I posted the OOA as save>block>trap>kill>redirect, but also stated, "The NK cannot be affected by any action except save." This was a clarification that NK has precedence over block and trap as well. I apologize for the confusion. Traps trap the target for one cycle, in which they cannot act and cannot be lynched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 How can I argue against random.org! When has it ever been wrong! Side note is there a way to get notified when there's a new post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1882 Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 i'll keep my vote for marksmanjay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Looking at the setup of the game, the goodies are in a terrible spot to win the game if they do not lynch scum in first 2 days. 3rd party survivor will lynch anyone to meet their win con so they'll team up with whoever is winning. Consider them a 3rd mafia. With that being said the numbers shift from 8-2 to 7-3. The patients only win if released so do they decide to scumhunt or just sit back and hope they get yolo released? It's a hard win con to achieve. Scum team, although only two members , are lucky they have the easiest win condition to meet. I'd give my left leg to be scum this game. I don't want to go indepth into how each faction should play this game because I don't like when mafia wins and to coach them through how to win is just silly. Hopefully they are not smart enough to figure it out bit it's pretty easy game from scum prospective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boquise Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 How can I argue against random.org! When has it ever been wrong! Side note is there a way to get notified when there's a new post? It is just to get things started, you know. So people can get a good read on their fellow players. I am going to vote on FreeOwn as a welcome vote (even though this is my first game on Brainden). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boquise Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana771. FreeOwn2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers4. araver5. Marksmanjay6. phil1882 - voting for marksmanjay7. onetruth voting for mtamburini8. Boquise - voting for FreeOwn9. Auramyna10. Barcallica11. mtamburini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
araver Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Side note is there a way to get notified when there's a new post?I think it's the Follow this topic button on top of the topics. Not sure since I've been away from BD for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
araver Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123 Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana77 1. FreeOwn 2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini 3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers 4. araver - voting for Auramyna 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 - voting for marksmanjay 7. onetruth voting for mtamburini 8. Boquise - voting for FreeOwn 9. Auramyna 10. Barcallica 11. mtamburini Voting to pressure my quiet friend on the other side of the world. Wakey wakey :wave: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Do the baddies each get a NK? Is this an actual question or were you just trolling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 How can I argue against random.org! When has it ever been wrong! Side note is there a way to get notified when there's a new post? It is just to get things started, you know. So people can get a good read on their fellow players. I am going to vote on FreeOwn as a welcome vote (even though this is my first game on Brainden). I understand that I generally use random.org for my random votes when I choose to do so that is why I found the whole thing funny and needed to respond in such a drastic sarcastic matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetruth Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Do the baddies each get a NK? Is this an actual question or were you just trolling? Why would I be trolling?? I didn't think they both had a NK, but the OP was confusing me, so I wanted to clear it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Do the baddies each get a NK? Is this an actual question or were you just trolling? Why would I be trolling?? I didn't think they both had a NK, but the OP was confusing me, so I wanted to clear it up. No comment. With less than 5 hours left in the day no everyone has checked in. A little odd but I think scum is among the people that have posted thus far. Vote for Boq, this should be sheeped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123 Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana77 1. FreeOwn 2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini 3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers 4. araver - voting for Auramyna 5. Marksmanjay 6. phil1882 - voting for marksmanjay 7. onetruth voting for mtamburini 8. Boquise - voting for FreeOwn 9. Auramyna 10. Barcallica 11. mtamburini - voting for Boquise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boquise Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) What do ya want to know? Also re-reading the op.. I have some questions. I don't know if they have already been asked, but ya have to bear with me, Kika. Do the sane roles need to both release the hypochondriac lynch baddies or is it enough with lynching baddies? A player that is released from the Asylum leaves the game, right? If the Psychologist targets a baddie with their release, will it say that the action has failed? (That would make it a high-risk spy) Is the goodie wincon solely being released? If the two sane players are killed, will the goodies lose and baddies win even if the goodies are in majority? I know what the op says about the wincons, but I want to be 100% clear. It feels like the Psychologist would want to avoid releasing people since they have a higher chance of targetting goodies, thus losing a vote, voice and action. On the other hand that will go against their secondary wincon and risk the goodies' wincon. Sorry for edit, but the colour in my question text disappeared. Edited August 18, 2014 by Boquise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamebirde Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 so, mtamburini, can you at least give us some information? i.e. I acted last night, I didn't act last night, stuff like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kikacat123 Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Do the sane roles need to both release the hypochondriac lynch baddies or is it enough with lynching baddies?A player that is released from the Asylum leaves the game, right? If the Psychologist targets a baddie with their release, will it say that the action has failed? (That would make it a high-risk spy)Is the goodie wincon solely being released? If the two sane players are killed, will the goodies lose and baddies win even if the goodies are in majority? I know what the op says about the wincons, but I want to be 100% clear. The Sane need to lynch both baddies and either release the Hypochondriac or have him/her be NKed. If the Psychologist targets a Killer with a release, the baddie is released and the Sane lose. The only way for a Patient to win is to be released, yes. If the Sane are killed, the Killers win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boquise Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Okay. I will be surprised if the Psychologist releases even one player. That is way too risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
araver Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Host: Asylum Warden: Kikacat123Co-host: Deputy Warden: nana771. FreeOwn2. Flamebirde - voting for mtamburini3. plasmid -DEAD- poisoned by Killers4. araver - voting for Boquise5. Marksmanjay6. phil1882 - voting for marksmanjay7. onetruth voting for mtamburini8. Boquise - voting for FreeOwn9. Auramyna10. Barcallica11. mtamburini - voting for BoquiseChanging my vote for now. Wish Aura were here to say something though. Nevermind, I can wait for a while.So Boq - here comes the question - what have you done last night?'Cause the questions you're putting are not smelling right. Or at least you don't smell Hypo to me, which is the only thing that made sense for those questions to be asked after N1 in public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Okay. I will be surprised if the Psychologist releases even one player. That is way too risky. I DO NOT WANT TO BE RELEASED. Meta Meta Meta Meta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 so, mtamburini, can you at least give us some information? i.e. I acted last night, I didn't act last night, stuff like that. Im not sure how to read into you fishing for information from me. If I confirm that I have no night action I cannot be baddie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 It feels like the Psychologist would want to avoid releasing people since they have a higher chance of targetting goodies, thus losing a vote, voice and action. On the other hand that will go against their secondary wincon and risk the goodies' wincon. If the Phychologist doesnt release someone everyday they are the most UNFUN PLAYER EVER. P.S. for the Phychologist release me I want to achieve my win condition. OMGERD I CONTRADICTED MYSELF Meta Meta Meta Meta. I do not see a way for the sane to win unless they release the patients to begin to narrow the field down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtamburini Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Calculated risks will win this game for the sane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boquise Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 @Araver: I haven't done anything meaningful yet. I disagree with it being "only fitting for Hypo to ask". It is highly relevant for us to know the risks, hence why I asked this in public and not in a PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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