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Just a starter to get some talking. Where was Framm when Maurice died??? :huh:

Good question. Slick, where were you? :ph34r: From what I can gather, 2 of the 4 baddies didn't act last night...

Host: Araver

1. Slick - voting for Framm

2. Hirkala - Voting for benjer

3. Segul

4. firno

5. golfjunkie

6. Framm

7. Vineetrika

8. DarthLegion

9. Blablah - Voting for Hirkala

10. Glycereine

11. benjer3

12. crazypainter – RID Killed by Comm. Sela

13. maurice – Killed by First Omet'iklan (The Dominion)

14. Social Darwin - Voting for Slick

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And hold the phone, why does Framm have anything to do with Maurice's death in the first place?

Also a good point. That would just be Slickster being slick and trying to place the blame for a goodies death with a random player. Not unusually for D1 considering information is limited, but also a baddie tactic as old as mafia itself. Right Slick?

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Host: Araver

1. Slick - voting for Framm

2. Hirkala - Voting for benjer

3. Segul

4. firno

5. golfjunkie

6. Framm - Voting for Firno

7. Vineetrika

8. DarthLegion

9. Blablah - Voting for Hirkala

10. Glycereine

11. benjer3

12. crazypainter – RID Killed by Comm. Sela

13. maurice – Killed by First Omet'iklan (The Dominion)

14. Social Darwin - Voting for Slick

I want to see what you have to say.

Slick, you are looking at the wrong place.

Sorry to see you go, CP. (Even if you were a baddie, nice to see you back in Mafia.) :( And you to Maurice.

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1. Slick - voting for Framm

2. Hirkala - Voting for benjer

3. Segul

4. firno

5. golfjunkie

6. Framm - Voting for Firno

7. Vineetrika

8. DarthLegion - Voting for Slick

9. Blablah - Voting for Hirkala

10. Glycereine

11. benjer3

12. crazypainter – RID Killed by Comm. Sela

13. maurice – Killed by First Omet'iklan (The Dominion)

14. Social Darwin - Voting for Slick

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Host: Araver

1. Slick - voting for Framm

2. Hirkala - Voting for benjer

3. Segul

4. firno

5. golfjunkie

6. Framm - Voting for Firno

7. Vineetrika

8. DarthLegion - Voting for Slick

9. Blablah - Voting for Slick

10. Glycereine

11. benjer3

12. crazypainter – RID Killed by Comm. Sela

13. maurice – Killed by First Omet'iklan (The Dominion)

14. Social Darwin - Voting for Slick

I suppose we should get some pressure going.

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Host: Araver

1. Slick - voting for Framm

2. Hirkala - Voting for benjer

3. Segul

4. firno

5. golfjunkie

6. Framm - Voting for Firno

7. Vineetrika

8. DarthLegion - Voting for Slick

9. Blablah - Voting for Slick

10. Glycereine - Voting for Firno

11. benjer3

12. crazypainter – RID Killed by Comm. Sela

13. maurice – Killed by First Omet'iklan (The Dominion)

14. Social Darwin - Voting for Slick

Would also like to hear from Slick, but don't want the votes to be unrecoverable yet so I'll pressure Firno.

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1. Slick - voting for Framm

2. Hirkala - Voting for Firno

3. Segul

4. firno

5. golfjunkie

6. Framm - Voting for Firno

7. Vineetrika

8. DarthLegion - Voting for Slick

9. Blablah - Voting for Slick

10. Glycereine - Voting for Firno

11. benjer3

12. crazypainter – RID Killed by Comm. Sela

13. maurice – Killed by First Omet'iklan (The Dominion)

14. Social Darwin - Voting for Slick

I'm feeling the same as Glyc... I'll tie it up on firno so he doesn't think that he can skate under Slick's votes. Firno? Anything from you?

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Can someone please explain the order of actions

Trap > RID Kill > Save > Redirect > Kill > Block > Oracle> Steal action > Spy/Follow.

I want to know if it is possible for crazypainter's action to be successful before he/she was RID killed. I also want to know if Slick's action could be successful before he is trapped.

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Can someone please explain the order of actions

Trap > RID Kill > Save > Redirect > Kill > Block > Oracle> Steal action > Spy/Follow.

I want to know if it is possible for crazypainter's action to be successful before he/she was RID killed. I also want to know if Slick's action could be successful before he is trapped.

In Computer Science terms - trap was evaluated first, then RID Kill, then the other actions.

So answers are:

1) "is possible for crazypainter's action to be successful before he/she was RID killed" - Only if action was trap.

2) "if Slick's action could be successful before he is trapped." - Only if action was trap.

P.S. Crazypainter is a she :D

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Thanks for the clarification Araver. It makes more sense now.

I have few more questions:

1.

He(Odo) needed patience to achieve his goals and cooperation from Starfleet.

Does this mean ODO sided with Starfleet ?

2. If Sela becomes successful with the next RID kill and achieve her wincon, then will the game end or it continues ?

3. If Bashir Save is not successful, will it be mentioned in the nightpost ?

4. According to the night post, Female Changeling stole Segul's ability. Does it mean that Segul's action was not successful ? After the ability is stolen, there was no action for Female Changeling. Does it mean that Female Changeling did not act after it is stolen or it might not have been mentioned ?

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I have few more questions:

1.

He needed patience to achieve his goals and cooperation from Starfleet. Patience he had plenty.

Does this mean ODO sided with Starfleet ?

1. Yes. EDIT: Actually I intended the part of "The Founders must be stopped" to be more explicit :D

2. If Sela becomes successful with the next RID kill and achieve her wincon, then will the game end or it continues ?

2. End with Romulan Victory.

3. If Bashir Save is not successful, will it be mentioned in the nightpost ?

3. No. only successful actions make it to the nightpost.

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QUESTION FOR HOST: Did First Omet'iklan KILL and BLOCK in N1? That's the way it is writen, which is confusing. Do the Dominion have a group KILL and decide who does the deed in addition to their night actions? It seems the Baddies have a role steal, a block, and two spies. Is that right?

To me, the night post reads:

Omet'iklan KILL

Omet'iklan BLOCK

Changeling STEAL

Therefore,

Weyoun SPY was blocked/failed

Gul Dukat FOLLOW/SPY blocked/failed

OR SPIES don't appear at night.

And to clarify, what does Gul Dukat's RD mean when you say "and can tell which person they visited"? That sounds like a SPY at night and then a VOTE MANIPULATION during the day. Is that right?

This is my first mafia in a while, so forgive me if some of the nuiances carried over from the newer era of mafias.

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QUESTION FOR HOST: Did First Omet'iklan KILL and BLOCK in N1? That's the way it is writen, which is confusing. Do the Dominion have a group KILL and decide who does the deed in addition to their night actions? It seems the Baddies have a role steal, a block, and two spies. Is that right?

1. Quote from OP: "The Dominion – Have BTSC and a Night Kill". They decide who carries the group kill.

EDIT: The individual night-actions are : (Role steal OR Use stolen ability) + (block OR invulnerable) + (Spy) + (Follow).

To me, the night post reads:

Omet'iklan KILL

Omet'iklan BLOCK

Changeling STEAL

Therefore,

Weyoun SPY was blocked/failed

Gul Dukat FOLLOW/SPY blocked/failed

2. Blocked or failed or not submitted.

OR SPIES don't appear at night.

3. All successful actions appear in night (and day) post.

And to clarify, what does Gul Dukat's RD mean when you say "and can tell which person they visited"? That sounds like a SPY at night and then a VOTE MANIPULATION during the day. Is that right?

4. Gul Dukat - Night-action: Follows a person and finds out who that person targeted that night (if any). Not a normal Spy because only player names are revealed, not roles.

5. GulDukat - Day action: He chooses a person whose vote counts x0 for the lynch.

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has slik gotten away with this because thats what it seems like BTW because you may not belive im good i wish i had not choosen goodie if im going down being called a baddie when i tryed to help the goodies :dry: ...yes you guessed it im ODO and i dont like lying you can ask segul to vouch for this if you want(as i know him in real life)

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