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My original theory was that you would vote for one of your own. I expected you to change your vote if DD started getting too many votes and if DD was FBI. My vote for DD was a vote to test that theory. There was no way I'd convince people early on that you were FBI, at least in my opinion, without exposing too much of myself. Also if you recall, the voting ended kind of abruptly on Day 1.

"Maurice, yes, I would have believed you were the Informant as you claim if you'd come out after being voted for in the first place in day 2. I still see no contradiction in what I said."

The contradiction? Hmmmm... I voted for you before I was voted for. If I came out right away and said that I was the Informant and you were the tech specialist, you would have believed me? Well, I guess you're right, since you knew both of those things to be true yourself.

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maurice I was believing you for a minute then I realized you were claiming the surveillance specialist followed you last night when the night post CLEARLY states that he followed me.

Sorry

Nope, I'm sorry. I said no such thing. I said that I believe the tech specialist redirected me. I was definitely redirected last night. Maybe it was the Consigliere. But I make no claim about the surveillance specialist.

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maurice I was believing you for a minute then I realized you were claiming the surveillance specialist followed you last night when the night post CLEARLY states that he followed me.

Sorry

i don't have time to check, but I think you're mixing up 2 roles. I think you were followed by the surveillance specialist and Maurice is claiming to have been redirected by the Tech Specialist. I'm still not sure who to believe, but I haven't had time to study back posts for inconsistencies.

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Hosts: NickFleming and EDM

1. maurice - Voting for Araver

3. MissKitten

4. Araver - Voting for Maurice

5. Vipe195 - Voting for Maurice

6. Izzy is voting for Maurice

7. Molly - Voting for Izzy

8. DD

9. Vineetrika - Voting for Araver

10. Glycereine - Voting for Araver

11. Marq - Voting for Izzy

13. onetruth is voting for Maurice

I'll probe in a different direction.

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I saw day ends at 5pm.. .what timzone?

Glycereine, 5 PM EST from Nick's post. But it would make a 24+5h day since it's more than 24 hours now since the night 2 post.

And a question for you: do you really believe that someone that knows an FBI votes the exact same way as that person? Because this is what maurice says: he knew from Night 1 that I was FBI and then copied my vote on Day 1. I'm sorry but I don't see that line of reasoning. And I'd be very happy to hear what makes you believe that.

Off-topic: newbie-ness does not imply not knowing how to play the game or making stupid mistakes. That might be expectable if you choose a random person from the street, but IMHO BrainDen doesn't attract random people, on the contrary.

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honestly araver I didn't think either of you were bad initially but you're going after each other very strongly so now I'm assuming one of the two of you is. *shrug*

from strictly a learning perspective, remind me to ask you about this afterwards (the game, the lynch, whenever appropriate). I think you are talking about whoever turns out to be FBI, but maybe you mean me. Always open to advice, critique, etc.

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1. maurice - Voting for Araver

3. MissKitten

4. Araver - Voting for Maurice

5. Vipe195 - Voting for Maurice

6. Izzy is voting for Maurice

7. Molly - Voting for Izzy

8. DD - Voting for Araver

9. Vineetrika - Voting for Araver

10. Glycereine - Voting for Araver

11. Marq - Voting for Izzy

13. onetruth is voting for Maurice

It's not obvious at the moment who's telling the truth, but I'm leaning towards believing Maurice more a the moment. Either way it goes, it'll be an easy lynch tomorrow if we're wrong.

And I'm really hoping MK shows up today and pipes in with her impressions. I saw some voting today that leaves me a bit confused.

<edited> The Mafia has all the vote manipulation so I'm trusting the Godfather and Corrupt Official to decide. <edited>

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The mafia were all in an argument.

ARAVER!!!!

MAURICE!!!!

Izzy!

The votes were cast, and the coins brought out. Yet they were not needed. Some vote(s), it seemed, were worth more than others.

The mafia approached Maurice. Maurice was confused.

"What do you know?" they asked him.

Maurice whistled to himself. He wasn't sharing all that he knew.

"Nothing. Nothing at all."

"LIES! Who's the inside man?"

"What?"

"WHOSE THE INSIDE MAN?"

"I... I don't know..."

"THEN DIE!"

A flash of metal, and then a boom like thunder. Maurice collapsed, his hands held against his stomach. Blood was leaking between his fingers. Maurice looked up, a look of surprise on his face.

"But... it's not fair..."

Maurice's eyes glazed over, and his head fell to the ground.

The Informant was dead.

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Hosts: NickFleming and EDM

3.MissKitten

4.araver

5.Vipe195

6. Izzy

7. Molly

8. DD

9. Vineetrika

10. Glycereine

11. Marq

13. onetruth

1.maurice - Dead. Lynched and revealed to be The Informant

2.Slick 2.0 - Dead. Killed by FBI.

12. Slick - Dead. Lynched and revealed to be Inside Man's Old Partner.

Mentor/Backup:

1.Framm

2.JarZe

3.LJ

4.GM

5.woon

God I messed up on that goodie/baddy thing again... (on who killed 2.0) One more mistake and I'm gonna have to extend this punishment for another week. I hope there wasn't any reasoning based off of that... Also, I may need a backup for MK...

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@Maurice, I'm sorry. You were telling the truth about being the Informant. But if you were in my shoes, you would not have believed in a less likely possibility. And if I survive the night, I will be in your shoes trying to convince others that you got redirected.

@Vineetrika - yes, I know. It's not the FBI kill that scares me, not a lynch tomorrow that scares me, but the Hitman's kill before I have the chance to use my role.

And Nick's not helping with making the days and nights longer and longer each time :(

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@Maurice, I'm sorry. You were telling the truth about being the Informant. But if you were in my shoes, you would not have believed in a less likely possibility. And if I survive the night, I will be in your shoes trying to convince others that you got redirected.

@Vineetrika - yes, I know. It's not the FBI kill that scares me, not a lynch tomorrow that scares me, but the Hitman's kill before I have the chance to use my role.

And Nick's not helping with making the days and nights longer and longer each time :(

You'll be lynched tomorrow if you're still alive then. And Nick's not making the days longer and longer. He announced that each day will end at 5:00 pm EST. It is not uncommon to provide an early night post if all actions are in and finalized, but the day should end at the same time each day if at all possible.

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Here's what I'm thinking. The hitman probably should take out Araver tonight. Given Maurice's role, that's completely sensible. However, if Maurice is wrong, that means we'll have no way of knowing about it. We'll still be forced to lynch someone tomorrow, and if we don't know who, well, that's a potential net loss of two Mafia members. Conversely, if Araver is in the FBI, we can possibly get two FBI members down.

We get more information if we lynch Araver tomorrow: we'll learn his role and things from the voting patterns.

Basically, we get him no matter what. It's a trade off between speed and information.

Noobs, vets, thoughts?

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