Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Hey everyone, sorry for the inactivity.... A lot of catching up to do. duo.how can you prove your innocence crazy painter? Well the night post clearly states that CP was spied, I know that doesn't clear her, but whoever spied on her could call her out anytime (if needed, which I strongly don't recommend). Don't kill me, I'm innocent! But I can't tell you why! - That doesn't sit quite right for some reason. Discuss. The bandwagoning....I don't know why either. But I'm voting for Framm to get some more pertinent discussion from him for the moment. Medji, why would you say that when you have absolutely no votes for you? You just got an entrance into my baddie list... I don't get it... Oh and you voted for someone who has plenty of pressure already? Weird... I have been on here all night trying to say that I am innocent. OK I targeted someone that died last night and if anything I played the wrong note. I hope that this does not get me killed tomorrow if not in today's lynch, but I really cannot think of what else I can do to get people to believe me. I know there are no RID kills but coming out is not gonna help... I think I believe you ATM, but I don't wanna bandwagon on blackcat, you both have plenty of pressure right now... Why in the world do you think this? It behoves the exile to act every night. Since the rogue stole a kill role, the rogue stole either the knight or the exile. I'd like to think the knight was smart enough not to randomly kill. Either way, the baddies know at least one other kill role (luckily they can only steal it every other night). Anyway: Ugh. I've always hated the initial vote. Personally, I think CP's initial instincts may be right... But IIRC we must avoid ties. I'm wary of a "hit-and-run" voter as well. We're absolutely sure the rogue stole a killing role (hence the double kill last night), I'm quite sure the Knight didn't kill last night, he wasn't even mentioned in the night post. Lets just hope that the neither Izzy or SG were the knight, otherwise we're gonna have a hard time with these guys. Like I said before, I don't wanna bandwagon on any of the guys that already have plenty of votes on their backs. 1. GMaster479 - voting for Framm 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for Framm 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG – DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for blackcat1313 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy – DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm- voting blackcat1313 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for Framm No particular reason for my vote, just wanna try another option... EDIT: Added blackcat's vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 It looked to me like evryone was randomly voting there's just not enough information. I really am innocent though. I'm choosing not to vote tonight until I figure out more about what on earth is going on. You do know that "not voting" could eventually benefit the baddies right? I'm not saying that you have to vote for Framm, but you could try someone else... Framm and bcat if any of you is an important goodie role you should start hinting at it now, we don't wanna see you come out with your role 10 minutes before the day ends when it's not gonna do any good... Remember what I said, do this only if you feel your "really" threatened and if you're a "very important" role. Just my thoughts... I hate these D1 lynches, either a goodie dies or gets outed... Aaaggghhh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Arggghhhh!!!! I really wish that I was better at defending myself, but I really have nothing that I can say to prove that I am an innocent without revealing my role. I really wish that Blackcat would come back on and at least explain why she voted the way she did. @JarZe: This post is what I was referring to when I made that comment. I was saying that it's not a good defense to say 'Don't kill me, I'm innocent' and then not give any other evidence/reason. And then, if you read my whole post, you'll find that I said right after that that that defense didn't sit well with me, and that that's why I was voting for Framm...to pressure him into giving a more reasonable defense than 'I'm innocent and I can't prove it!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akaslickster Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Let's not jump to deadly conclusions, i will vote ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 JZ I think your too late about the reveal, unless you skimmed and missed, but not gonna highlite it. 1. GMaster479 - voting for Framm 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for Framm 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG – DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for blackcat1313 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy – DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm- voting blackcat1313 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for blackcat1313 I saw a 'reason' to take my vote off, but not not really where to put it, I am back later and should be able to change again if we get anything useful. I'd vote for woon, but he won't talk - not even voting?? poor medji - voting for BC1313 someone is gonna be under house arrest Significant date or all bad luck?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Wow...This is looking rather one sided for a day 1 vote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Well the night post clearly states that CP was spied, I know that doesn't clear her, but whoever spied on her could call her out anytime (if needed, which I strongly don't recommend). Especially since the baddies have the ability to make someone appear as anyone they want when spied. I am a little concerned at the timing of CP's statement (almost pre-emptive)...but not enough to say anything one way or another... Medji, why would you say that when you have absolutely no votes for you? You just got an entrance into my baddie list... I don't get it... Oh and you voted for someone who has plenty of pressure already? Weird... I saw that too...but there's one other that made me twitch as well... I know there are no RID kills but coming out is not gonna help... I think I believe you ATM, but I don't wanna bandwagon on blackcat, you both have plenty of pressure right now... We're absolutely sure the rogue stole a killing role (hence the double kill last night), I'm quite sure the Knight didn't kill last night, he wasn't even mentioned in the night post. Lets just hope that the neither Izzy or SG were the knight, otherwise we're gonna have a hard time with these guys. Like I said before, I don't wanna bandwagon on any of the guys that already have plenty of votes on their backs. The knight cannot die while the squire is alive. Unless the baddies managed to kill both the knight and squire in the same night, I doubt either SG or Izzy were the knight. I didn't want to bandwagon either, but I'm worried about a tie. We have quite a few spy roles, hopefully they choose well tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 It's the usual story most likely, we loose one over night and another in the lynch. I'm hoping one of the extras was the exile, though they could have stollen our kill role and choose random, which would mean we blocked the exile last night - are we that lucky, doubtful. Based on what I've interpreted so far. I have not time to read again, but see a frame being set up I think. Blsckcat1313, please speak up Marth - are you putting spy activity in - it gives us clues, but also the baddies??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 The knight cannot die while the squire is alive. Unless the baddies managed to kill both the knight and squire in the same night, I doubt either SG or Izzy were the knight. Yeah, hopefully you're right and we only lost 1 goodie last night. It's weird that the indy didn't act also, unless he/she was blocked. You know, I'm inclined to believe that the baddies stole the ability of the Exile, why? Because it's more likely for the Knight to hold his sword on night one (to avoid friendly fire), the exile, on the other hand, will benefit from killing every single night. So it's possible that either Izzy or SG were the Exile. I didn't want to bandwagon either, but I'm worried about a tie. We have quite a few spy roles, hopefully they choose well tonight. You're absolutely right, a tie would definitely hurt us because it's unlikely that the baddies will let a tie affect them. I'm telling you, I'd rather lose one goodie than two, of course it would be best if we got a baddie, but it seems that BC is reluctant to speak up. It's the usual story most likely, we loose one over night and another in the lynch. I'm hoping one of the extras was the exile, though they could have stollen our kill role and choose random, which would mean we blocked the exile last night - are we that lucky, doubtful. Based on what I've interpreted so far. I have not time to read again, but see a frame being set up I think. Blsckcat1313, please speak up Exactly what I mean, I just hope Izzy or SG were the Exile, otherwise it's bad start for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmaster479 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Waiting on the day post. Sorry about this blackcat1313 (unless you are actually a baddie) after a while it'll get better don't be discouraged. We can be suspicious of Framm and look at some votes if blackcat1313 happens to be a goodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Suddenly out of no where, the prince and his royal guards started marching toward the townspeople. The prince pointed to one of the members of the crowd, "Seize him at once." "At once, your highness!" The guards entered the crowd and immediately grabbed Framm and escorted him away for investigation by the prince. 1. GMaster479 - voting for ???? 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for ???? 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for blackcat1313 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm {Captured by the Prince} 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for blackcat1313 Votes for Framm were removed. Edited December 3, 2009 by Prince_Marth85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) OK whats up with that? Above post...Does that mean the Prince and Framm are gone for now? I must go back and read the OP. Prince - Order's the guards to capture one player each DAY. That player cannot be lynched that day or killed the next night and will be released the following day. There is a 25% chance that the prince will learn the role of the one he captured. The Prince may not capture the same person again. If the King dies, the Prince becomes King and gains the King’s ability on top of his own. Edited December 3, 2009 by crazypainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmaster479 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 1. GMaster479 - voting for blackcat1313 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for ???? 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG – DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for blackcat1313 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy – DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm {Captured by the Prince} 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for blackcat1313 That was odd but with no other choice blackcat is gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 1. GMaster479 - voting for blackcat1313 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for ???? 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG – DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for GMaster479 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy – DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm {Captured by the Prince} 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for blackcat1313 I disagree. Now we can pressure another to talk more. Im not gonna just through BC to the wolves. Id rather use him as bait. jk^_^ And since we have sooo much to go on I can only use my instincts. But why waste an opportunity to get another possible baddie to talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 OK whats up with that? Above post...Does that mean the Prince and Framm are gone for now? I must go back and read the OP. Prince - Order's the guards to capture one player each DAY. That player cannot be lynched that day or killed the next night and will be released the following day. There is a 25% chance that the prince will learn the role of the one he captured. The Prince may not capture the same person again. If the King dies, the Prince becomes King and gains the King’s ability on top of his own. Only Framm is gone for the day and night, the Prince is still able to vote and post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I disagree. Now we can pressure another to talk more. Im not gonna just through BC to the wolves. Id rather use him as bait. jk^_^ And since we have sooo much to go on I can only use my instincts. But why waste an opportunity to get another possible baddie to talk? I have mixed feelings about what the prince did here. The kidnap follows into the night, which means that we just lost a pretty hefty ability if framm is who he says he is (and it's only a 25% chance of the prince getting that information), and BC seemed to be more likely to be lynched...On the other hand it prevents the baddies from stealing him which could be a good thing... And JarZe, I don't think either Izzy or SG was the exile...but that's just my gut (it doesn't seem likely to me at least that the baddies would kill the one role they know). The only person that would be able to shed light on that would be the coroner...and I haven't seen anything here that would suggest the coroner saying anything about it either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Especially since the baddies have the ability to make someone appear as anyone they want when spied. I am a little concerned at the timing of CP's statement (almost pre-emptive)...but not enough to say anything one way or another... Tpax, would you please tell me what you are referring to here? What preemptive statement did I make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 Tpax, would you please tell me what you are referring to here? What preemptive statement did I make? Just commenting on the relative quickness of you coming out (no pun intended there ) It just seemed to me to be unnecessarily early for you to state so vociferously that you were good....and that the sage can prove it (even though that is not necessarily the case, since for all i know you are a baddie who was made to be a goodie and the sage happened to target you too). On the other hand, it's probably that I'm just overly paranoid ...especially in light of the fact that the baddies probably know the exile's identity...I'm rather hoping that that fact pushes the exile into making a mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Just commenting on the relative quickness of you coming out (no pun intended there ) It just seemed to me to be unnecessarily early for you to state so vociferously that you were good....and that the sage can prove it (even though that is not necessarily the case, since for all i know you are a baddie who was made to be a goodie and the sage happened to target you too). On the other hand, it's probably that I'm just overly paranoid ...especially in light of the fact that the baddies probably know the exile's identity...I'm rather hoping that that fact pushes the exile into making a mistake I will have to reread the op. I dont remember anything about a baddie being turned into a goodie. Ever. edit: didnt realize i came out so vociferously. I thought I was only pointing out something obvious so that our good killing role wouldnt target me. Edited December 3, 2009 by crazypainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I will have to reread the op. I dont remember anything about a baddie being turned into a goodie. Ever. Dark Magician – A powerful dark mage. Can cause a player to appear as any role he wants. My reading of this - the dark mage can cause, for example, a teammate to appear as a goodie or a goodie to appear as a baddie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 (edited) Dark Magician – A powerful dark mage. Can cause a player to appear as any role he wants. My reading of this - the dark mage can cause, for example, a teammate to appear as a goodie or a goodie to appear as a baddie... OOOh right. My apologies. edit: so you are thinking the Black mage could have told the sage I was someone different. But then wouldnt it show in the post that I was visited by two seperate roles?? Edited December 3, 2009 by crazypainter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 1. GMaster479 - voting for blackcat1313 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for blackcat1313 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG – DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for GMaster479 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy – DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm {Captured by the Prince} 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for blackcat1313 ok the prince is not being to smart right now. The king is dead so he inherits the role. As king he can end the vote at any time so, why would he not just end the day instead of the action he took? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmaster479 Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 1. GMaster479 - voting for blackcat1313 2. Pablos4pandas- voting for blackcat1313 3. JarZe - voting for Sayalzah 4. SG – DEAD (Killed by the Dark Magician) 5. Crazypainter voting for GMaster479 6. blackcat1313 7. woon 8. Sayalzah - voting for blackcat1313 9. tpaxatb - voting for blackcat1313 10. Medji - voting for blackcat1313 11. DudleyDude - voting blackcat1313 12. Izzy – DEAD (Killed by the Rogue) 13.akaslickster 14. Framm {Captured by the Prince} 15. Lost in Space (LIS)voting for blackcat1313 ok the prince is not being to smart right now. The king is dead so he inherits the role. As king he can end the vote at any time so, why would he not just end the day instead of the action he took? The King isn't dead. If not the Prince would have stopped the lynch already with that action. We know both the Prince and King are still alive and since blackcat has been doomed by the powers that be it doesn't mstter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 The King isn't dead. If not the Prince would have stopped the lynch already with that action. We know both the Prince and King are still alive and since blackcat has been doomed by the powers that be it doesn't mstter im quite sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2009 Report Share Posted December 3, 2009 I'd say the prince jumped the gun, but yeah maybe the baddies could have used it, in fact they still can, but not tonight. Are we seeing the exile as still around? I got a different impression. And way too much info out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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