tolecnal

@Mew - are you suspicious of TheChad? And am I correct that you're only suspicious of smoth because he is suspicious of flame and TheChad?

@flamebirde - why wouldn't you vote?

1. hotterthnfire 2. mew - voting for mboon 3. flamebride - voting for - 4. TheChad 5. smoth333 - voting for TheChad 6. 'Cat'astrophe 7. maurice - killed by the Baddies 8. mboon - voting for Hotterthnfire 9. tolecnal - voting for TheChad 10. curr3nt - trapped for the day - cannot be voted for or vote @smoth - I get what you mean, possibly lynch a baddie now rather than definitely letting the baddies force us to lynch a goodie. And I agree an inactive goodie is better than an active goodie of the baddies choosing. I don't love it... this would mean if we are wrong we both look super baddie, but I'm willing to take that risk based on the odds described above. Unless anyone has any info on TheChad or a valid reason to be more suspicious of someone else?

1. hotterthnfire 2. mew - voting for mboon 3. flamebride - voting for - 4. TheChad 5. smoth333 - voting for 'Cat'astrophe 6. 'Cat'astrophe 7. maurice - killed by the Baddies 8. mboon - voting for Hotterthnfire 9. tolecnal - voting for TheChad 10. curr3nt - trapped for the day - cannot be voted for or vote To keep the tie going, just in case GM says that a tie means no lynch on day 1.

Does current being trapped mean he also can't talk? It's so quiet in here...

Host: GM 1. hotterthnfire 2. mew 3. flamebride - voting for - TheChad 4. TheChad 5. smoth333 - voting for 'Cat'astrophe 6. 'Cat'astrophe 7. maurice - killed by the Baddies 8. mboon 9. tolecnal - voting for mboon 10. curr3nt - trapped for the day - cannot be voted for or vote @mew - sleeping can get in the way of talking I would point out that the baddies' choice of nightkill was very thoughtful (no offense Mo), suggesting a high-level or at least frequent mafia player on their team...mboooooooooooooon (also, I always find myself trusting mboon too easily!!! I need to start with distrust so I don't fall under her inherent charm!)

YEEEssssssss!

I'll be a backup if you need one, please don't make me solve a puzzle!

Host: GM 1. hotterthnfire 2. mew 3. flamebride 4. Sakura-chan 5. 6. 'Cat'astrophe 7. 8. mboon 9. tolecnal 10. Sakura - I don't think anyone did it intentionally, I've put your name on the list because I assume from your posts you'd like to play. 3 to go!!

Current Participants Player 1- MiKi Player 2- Molly Mae Player 3- Flamebirde Player 4- tolecnal Player 5- Player 6- Player 7- Player 8- Player 9- Player 10- Player 11- Player 12- Player 13- Player 14- Player 15-

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~GM 1. hotterthnfire 2. mew 3. 4. 5. 6. 'Cat'astrophe 7. 8. mboon 9. tolecnal 10. Sakura-chan Mentors: 1. Thalia 2. MiKi [Course, I'm also available as a backup or even player if necessary. ] 3. MoMa Def still a noob and thus I qualify for this game

@mboon - km or smoth could say for sure but persnaps my redirect bounced off of sakura and hit you?

See "Tom and Jerry - The Night Before Christmas" and you will understand why Tom would want to keep Jerry alive. It's the whole villain-hero relationship, the villain (Tom) doesn't want the hero (Jerry) to die as Jerry reinforces Tom's identity and Tom reinforces Jerry's. Factor in the Simone de Beauvoir notion of self and other and you'll see what I mean ...or I'm reading too much into it

I wouldn't have started a lynch against you if I hadn't seen the results of my redirect as they were and plasmid actually started the lynch against you. I don't let past games flavor my actions in new games as roles are randomized.

Oh I see now how I got plasmid killed, thanks Molly Mae.

Interesting so did smoth/Tom redirect your save to the baddie NK target N1? And sakura did you taget me for NK N1? I wouldn't be surprised at all. Maybe you can kill me to your satisfaction in the next game. So I got Plasmid killed? It had nothing to do with you targeting him? And also interesting I thought plasmid would have gotten himself killed because he was guiding the game so well and he was a threat to whatever side he wasn't on - I didn't realize I'd had anything to do with it. I guess, I'm so so so sorry Plasmid <insert crying smiley here> Also you probably still wouldn't have won because Cat so skillfully copied Miki's role and they both RIDed you, so even if you'd gotten Miki, Cat still would have taken you out. meh.

Yea, smoth needs to be a baddie again, as do you mboon - you both come off as goodies to me every time!

what a twist - i thought for sure Tom's wincon was Jerry must die (which I only thought of after outting that I was Jerry...) that's kinda cool that Tom would have sacrificed himself for Jerry, that's so cute!

KM- this TMM didn't suck at all! It was a great concept and the roles were bada$$ in my humble opinion. THANKS for hosting!!

I don't feel like the day spy has weighed in at all... oh, unless that was plasmid. I'm not confident in voting for tra, but agree that there isn't anyone else I'm more confident of and it's better than a random lynch

Hosts: kristmark1 and Maurice 2. tolecnal - voting for Tralala! 3. Hidden G 4. Tralala! 5. mboon - voting for Tralala! 6. smoth - 8. 'Cat'astrophe 9. MiKi - voting for Tralala! If Tra has been inactive could she even be Meathead? because he acted last night... It's possible she's tom and that's why we haven't seen any vote manipulation Altho was anyone redirected last night? Because I was blocked and didn't redirect - so if Tra hasn't been on and there was no additional redirect perhaps she is Tom. All I have to go on for now Also how is it that both mboon and Hidden G were redirected on N1? That would imply there's an additional redirect and mine somehow bounced off of Sakura.

I wonder if Sakura was BUtch and if so, how did you both come to that conclusion? A question for post-game because I'm seriously impressed. I was convinced she was meathead.

Go spike and tuffy! And go tuffy for your nice role copy choice, saweeet

Is there an additional redirect or special redirect/mirroring power that Tom has or do we think a redirect on a block bounces to someone random? I wasn't clear on where that debate ended...

I guess I don't really understand OOA very well (okay, I already knew that I don't have a 100% grasp of it) but I thought when it says Block>redirect that means that: if A (blocker) blocked B (redirect) who was redirecting A to C = the block would win and B would be blocked and the redirect would fail, BUT if A (blocker) blocked C (not redirect) and B (redirect) redirected A to D then the redirect would go through and A would block D. Since this is a trainer mafia I feel not so stupid asking, since it counts as training! This assumption (one of many) is why I thought I could have redirected Meathead (block) to plasmid since no one was blocking me. Can someone educate me?