Thalia

The question is what kind of player is Sweden? The risk taking kind who possibly frames someone or the play it safe kind? Thanks...I think... This is a site full of intelligent people with the potential to pull off a ruse. Maurice has seemed unusually quiet. Trap doesn't stop talking although I'm not sure what he would have to say being trapped.

"Germany then should try to save him, Germany is dead." Don't quite understand that sentence. Haven't heard anything from maurice since the start of the game. Maybe still reading those manuals. But it looks like 3 of us are for targeting bonanova for the kill. I'm not sure either way on the save though. My head's spinning trying to figure out the numbers for different scenarios but why target for kill and save when you intend to lynch him the next day anyway? If Australia is alive, tonight would probably be best for using that save. At least we don't have to worry about accidentally blocking the saves...

Shh!!! Trusted people get NKed... If it comes down to 1v1v1, I don't see it ending in a goodie win. Lynch Sweden and China NKs. Lynch China and Sweden could RID kill or even win from the lynch. Not sure what would happen if it's China against US. China comes first but the kill is not blocking...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity" You're saying this in a game revolving around murder, deception, and potentially paranoia. . . I'd call that malice. In mafia, malice and stupidity are not mutually exclusive anyway. At the time of your last post, MM and I were already abstaining. It was one vote on you, one on MikeD. If I were in that situation, I'd be watching pretty close with the deadline coming up. Usually having your head on the chopping block does that to people. Could it have been an accident? Sure. But a lot of lying happens in mafia so. . . As for maurice. . . I think we're 99% sure he's not Sweden. Then there's that.

I'm curious as to whether you would have suggested that had you been number 1 on the list... That's why I say probably not. I could see Sweden self trapping to throw people off. I haven't played with Maurice in a long time so I don't know if he's that kind of person. Unless something else comes up though, I'm marking him not Sweden. Just so the US understands, are we trying to kill and save me or just plain kill bonanova? Tardiness kills in mafia...

From the OP, it looks like Australia is the only one who can't self target. Given the news that kills aren't blocking, it looks like we know even less than we thought... plasmid isn't China but could be Sweden. maurice...who knows? Probably not Sweden.

Whoops. Sorry Molly. The cursor keeps jumping around on my phone... Since my last phone vote did weird stuff, could someone please change my vote to abstaining? @MikeD I thought that too but Araver has clarified that the 50% part only applies to the vote. The save still goes through assuming not blocked. HOST: To clarify, even though plasmid was NKed, any night action he might have had would still go through assuming not otherwise blocked/trapped etc?

I'm ok with that for now. Players: 1. Thalia - voting for bonanova 2. bonanova - voting for MikeD 3. Molly Mae - voting for MikeD 4. Flamebirde - voting for bonanova 5. maurice - quarantined by Sweden 6. MikeD 7. plasmid - Invaded N1 by China

Has something happened to Araver that the rest of us don't know about? I've seen attempts to lynch the host before but not a night killed one yet. Well, I guess we can ignore my previous guesses that plasmid or maurice are UK based on that...

The OP says quarantine/blockade are told to the players. How does that work?

Yeah. . . I've been having a lot of duplicate posting issues lately. . . Since Araver answered no to both questions, you have all the information I have. I would guess if a block was unsuccessful, it wouldn't show. So I'm not sure what pressure on me will get you. But to summarize if you missed it: plasmid is not the Swede maurice is most likely not the Swede Guessing plasmid or maurice is the UK but I can't say that for certain Guessing US has picked even kills for obvious reasons

Players: 1. Thalia - voting for bonanova 2. bonanova 3. Molly Mae - voting for Thalia 4. Flamebirde 5. maurice - quarantined by Sweden 6. MikeD 7. plasmid - Invaded N1 by China Welcome vote to bonanova. plasmid is definitely not the Swede. There is the possibility of Maurice being the Swede but that's pretty doubtful. Going to guess the US picked kills for even nights since it wouldn't make sense to kill completely at random right off the bat. Missing a block in the night post and potentially a save. Do Germany and Australia's saves show in the night post if their target wasn't targeted for a kill? If Germany's save backfires, are we told?

HOST: Just to be sure, does save refer only to protect or to the save part of the trap as well?

HOST: The OOA seems to say that the NK will happen before anything else. How does that work with saying it can be saved from?

Since the roles changed, I'd prefer a new thread with updated roles for reference purposes. Or a link to the post that has them. Signatures don't seem to show up on my phone. Hopefully I'll be on a computer more. Maybe a link in the role messages?

Daily maintenance? This is a daily thing?

[spoiler=Test]Maybe it's a title thing. [/spoiler] As for nested quotes, I'm not sure what's odd about nesting. I've noticed if I want to include the spoiler in a quote with text, I have to have the spoiler open before quoting...

Would that be so you can get more help from your baddie buddies? I'm on to you... Let the insanity commence... Hmm. If a baddie leaves, that potentially hurts his buddies. Too bad there's no backstabbing emoticon here.

Still haven't found a way to do spoilers on phone so see quote below:

I haven't been on MM in forever so I don't know how active things are over there. Might have to do some recruiting from that end. I'm still here from time to time but not as often as I used to be. Think I can be on more if this works out though. Hope you can get the people.

Are we trying to figure out who "we" are or who the migrants are or both? If we're looking for the migrants, is "we" referring to people?

Sounds good to me! Testing the waters (host): araver Players: 1.Thalia 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. Backups 1. 2.

No one else wants to take a stab?