Molly Mae
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I didn't realise it was so close to the end of the day. And I didn't see his post about Slick being the sergeant until after I got back.
I have a lot of things to do and I'm in and out of the office frequently.
If the goodies would volunteer information instead of having to be pressured into giving it, maybe we'd actually stand a chance. Now, the night will bring another goodie death. We'll be down to 3 goodies, 3 baddies, and 1 indy. If Slick doesn't break out, we're pretty much done if the baddies can tie tomorrow's lynch vote.
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Harvey.... Sorry I wasn't on in time to remove my vote. I should have figured you were good.
I'm still not a fan of the baddies blocking the baddies, though. I think any experienced player would never do it.
I think the biggest possibility, Framm, is that you're Kate and you faked the spy. Either way, you're good. The block on GM couldn't have been faked, though.
I think the likely candidates are Filly, LJ, Hirkala, and Glyc. The first three haven't said much, but I guess that will have to wait until tomorrow unfortunately.
I've never seen a baddie block a baddie on night 1, but I always hear someone say they could do it to alleviate suspicion. If they did it this game and GM is bad, I'm not onto him yet. Perhaps for a larger game, it might work. It just really seems like a waste no matter how I think about it.
EDIT: Grammar.
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A library. =P
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Ah! Sorry I missed this, I'm at work and something came up.
If I were the Indy, I'd let you know, Framm. I really do think the Sergeant and the goodies should work together. Plus, if Harvey is Frederic, I don't see why he would lie about Slick being the Sergeant.
Framm--you and I are about the only ones I can say are good for sure. GM's last minute vote is a little suspicious, but a lot of people have tried for last minute changes (Me, Glyc, you, and GM) just today.
I guess we'll just have to see how this plays out.
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Harvey...I think you're trying to tell me that you're Frederic. If you are, you would know who Slick is.
If I'm off base, let me know.
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly - Voting for Harvey
3)-LJ - Voting for Harvey
4)-Harvey - Voting for Molly Mae
5)-Glycerine - Voting for Molly Mae
6)-Hirkala - Voting for LJ
7)-Slick - IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Harvey
9)-GMaster - voting for Framm
10)-Framm - Voting for Gmaster
I'm pretty sure I've been the catalyst for everyone talking. Barely a word of discussion since I left last night.
While I have my eye on you, Harvey, I'll remove my vote if you hint at your role. It always seems like two people war against each other for the D1 lynch and they both end up being goodies. The baddies just watch and subtly manipulate the votes from the back (if they even have to). This is actually the third game in a row where I've been one of the two up for lynch, too. I attribute that to my view on the day 1 lynch, though. Everyone tries to hide and anyone caught trying to offer information goes on the chopping block.
Hint, Harvey, and I'll move on to the next one.
EDIT: Clarification.
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Framm, I agree. We should have waited at least until tomorrow to see who doesn't act. If he's the Sergeant, we'll figure it out.
*Sigh* I'm up late again. Early day tomorrow...
I'll see how we're doing in the morning.
I feel as if I've said enough, though. Go back and count the posts. I think I'm an addict.
EDIT: Spelling.
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Without pressure, I'll reply.
Vote changing is the key to information. I wish more people would realise that. All too often a goodie gets lynched on the first day and we have no useful information. If it were up to me, everyone would have a majority of the votes at least once on day 1.
With only 5 goodies left (4 if Slick is one), we have to be really careful or we'll end this day with too few people to do anything. Tomorrow night we'll likely lose another.
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly - Voting for Harvey
3)-LJ - Voting for Harvey
4)-Harvey
5)-Glycerine- Voting for Harvey
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - Voting for Gmaster
Fixed Slick's colour.
Honestly, I was hoping the Sergeant would agree to work with us and then we could switch to someone else.
Either way, I propose the Sergeant work with us (whether he acknowledges or not).
It's not flawed logic, you just only saw the first half of the plan. The Sergeant would likely have been forced to help us.
The Sergeant is more likely to trap the goodies, too.
I'm abstaining from the vote for now. I might be on in the morning to vote, if anyone else has said anything.
I'm still considering the vote for Slick, though. It seems like a baddie ruse to keep the Sergeant from joining the goodies.
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We can hurt him more than he can hurt us. By putting more goodies in prison, he decreases the chances of the baddies getting killed. The baddies don't care who he is, since they have to kill everyone. We don't have to kill him--our wincons can both be realised. We can kill the baddies and he can have his prisoners.
He's more of a goodie than a baddie, to be sure.
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly - Voting for Hirkala
3)-LJ - Voting for Harvey
4)-Harvey - Voting for Slick
5)-Glycerine- Voting for Harvey
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Slick
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - Voting for Gmaster
Slick...if you're the Sergeant...sorry. Otherwise, you're our bargaining chip to get the Sergeant out. And if you're bad, woo-hoo.
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@Framm: I agree with your premise, but if we can pressure the Sergeant out, it would be to our benefit.
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Maybe we should wait until tomorrow just in case Slick happens to be so unfortunate as to be the Sergeant.
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Can imprisoned players be acted upon? Spied, killed, or lynched?
If we can lynch imprisoned players, I suggest we lynch (and keep lynching) them. I know they can't defend themselves, but it might force the Sergeant to join us, since we can keep killing whoever he tries to imprison. The baddie wincon involves killing the Sergeant, as well, so he wouldn't have much of a choice.
Of course, we could spare the whole trouble if the Sergeant does reveal himself.
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Look at the night post:
11:00 Slick was about to act on Glycerine but Mabel had other plans.
"Why don't you instead act on Slick? He is acting against what you'd like. He intends to act on Filly (not really). Save him if you can. Go to death and go to slaughter. Die and every cornish daughter. Though with tears you grave shall water, go ye hero go and die!"
The impact of these words caused Slick to gulp, and accepting Mabel's logic, acted on himself.
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12:45 The Sergeant approached his target, however, the moment he stepped, his foot cracked a stick. His target was on his guard. The Sergeant closed his eyes and randomly picked one of his men.
"You do it. He wont recognize you."
The selected officer handcuffed Slick and carted him off to prison.
That's why he trapped himself.
That still doesn't make much sense, though. More logically, Slick could be almost anybody. Mabel, for instance. He targets himself (God knows why) to redirect his target to himself. Then the Sergeant (someone else) just happens to arrest him. Just because Slick targeted himself and the Sergeant targeted Slick doesn't mean that they're the same person. They just picked the same target.
EDIT: I'm not saying that Slick isn't the Sergeant, though. I'm just saying that we don't have enough information to prove it.
If the sergeant would like to work with the goodies and just out himself (if it's allowed), I'm sure we could kill the baddies and meet his wincon.
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You didn't present a defence. And in a game as small and as short as this, I would hope Slick wouldn't trap himself...
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But he did get redirected.
That actually does make sense.
But give me a defence and I'll change my vote so we can get someone else to talk, but saving votes always look suspicious to me.
I don't know about this...
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly - Voting for Hirkala
3)-LJ - Voting for Harvey
4)-Harvey
5)-Glycerine- Voting for Harvey
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Harvey
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - Voting for Hirkala
Hirk--Day one voting is really a pretense. Nobody has much information and the vote usually ends in a goodie lynch. It's our job to pressure as many people as possible in an attempt to get everyone to at least say something.
If Harvey's commented, I missed it. My votes on him for now.
EDIT: For clarification, Harvey might not feel pressured now (especially if he's bad) because he can just add votes to Hirkala (assuming that Hirkala isn't bad).
Pressure!
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If it were a chess piece, the pawn would be much more apt. But my guess is a child, probably a baby.
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly - Voting for Hirkala
3)-LJ
4)--Harvey
5)-Glycerine
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Glycerine
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - Voting for Hirkala
Oh. Nice. I was thinking it would give the baddies a huge advantage over us if we couldn't change votes to get information out of more people.
I'll still change my vote back to Glyc, though. Hirk, your defence?
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In that case, I really hope Hirk is bad.
Since there's no vote changing and my initial vote was for Glycerine, can I change it back to him? I don't want to seal his fate just yet.
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That should be enough to pressure him into a defence.
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly
3)-LJ
4)--Harvey
5)-Glycerine
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Hirkala
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - Voting for Hirkala
Here's to pressure. The baddies don't have an RID role, nor is there an indie. I think we should be safe hinting at roles.
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly
3)-LJ
4)--Harvey
5)-Glycerine
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Glycerine
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - Voting for Hirkala
You're right, Framm. I was just confused about the wording. I can't imagine a waste of a spy.
Someone help with pressure?
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Wow. That can be pretty hard to follow. This one will surely require an in-depth spreadsheet.
Just to get the ball rolling, though, here's my vote.
1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly
3)-LJ
4)--Harvey
5)-Glycerine
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick- IN JAIL.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Framm
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm
I might be misreading the narrative, but the line I'm going on is below.
"12:00 The Pirate King considered spying on Framm, but decided not to as that might mean forfeiting his identity to someone who clearly trusted him."
Also, it said Framm had already acted. Two baddies had acted before that, so there's still a chance it's him.
I'm not pushing for a Framm lynch. I just want people to talk.
EDIT: Forgot the slash to close the colour tag.
2nd Edit: Forgot Yuiop's gray colour tag.
3rd Edit: In hindsight, though, why would a baddie spy a baddie?
4th Edit: Slick's colour tag. =P
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A strange twist...
Pirates of Penzance Mafia
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1)-Yuiop-DEAD-Killed by the Pirates.
2)-Filly
3)-LJ
4)-Harvey - DEAD-LYNCHED-Frederic
5)-Glycerine
6)-Hirkala
7)-Slick - DEAD - Killed by Ruth.
8)-Molly Mae - Voting for Filly
9)-GMaster
10)-Framm - DEAD - Killed by Pirates.
I'm pretty sure I've got you pegged, Filly. But it doesn't really matter. The baddies can come out now and tie the vote. The kill tomorrow will mean that we lose.