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  1. First of all, you can't really get a "number of moves" from a computer algorithm.

    Umm...what? I mean, if there is a repeatable pattern that you follow in order to solve a problem, which in the case of the OP there is, then you can write a computer program to solve it (that's what programs are...repeatable steps)

    From my understanding of the OP (and forgive me, because I may have missed something in the intermediate posts), the way this sort works is basically you grab a DVD, you KNOW what position it should be in, and you insert it there. So for example:

    Define this as a single "move":

    Look at a DVD...does it belong at the beginning of the list of DVDs? If not, take it out...shift all of the DVDs between its old position and its new position over and insert it at its correct spot.

    Now the OP also says they don't care about ascending or descending order...whichever takes fewer of the above moves (but WORST case...in other words, take the WORST POSSIBLE permutation of the DVDs using the above sort, and figure out the fewest number of "moves" it would take to sort them either ascending or descending...that is the REQUIRED number of moves to ENSURE you have sorted them.)

    If I understood, and described the OP correctly, then here are the results for 1-11 DVDs:

    #DVDs # required moves

    1 0

    2 0

    3 1

    4 2

    5 2

    6 3

    7 3

    8 4

    9 4

    10 5

    11 5

    I didn't go out further, as it becomes pretty CPU intensive to get all possible permutations for 12 objects (479,001,600 possible permutations if my math serves me right...), and then to SORT all of those both ascending and descending using the described sorting "move"...


  2. I've been working on what I last posted, and found that all of the words but one in the titles are in the seven answers in each stanza...So the remaining title words are:


    GASSES TIP EON ELF BYE IN RAKE

    ...Which means absolutely nothing to me!

    The only other thing I can think of, is maybe the titles themselves are clues to something and the only ones that make any sense to me are:

    His gasses go to a sun by Clarke (JUPITER or ODYSSEY...because of Arthur C. Clarke's 2001: A Space Odyssey)

    I never did steal a gem tip sceptre (DIAMOND or EMERALD...because what other gems do you steal that are 7 letters?)

    Anyone else finding anything??


  3. But when I ran my own program, the only shape that I get a similar pattern on is a triangle:

    post-13141-0-22049600-1374602865_thumb.p

    I see a pattern forming with a pentagon, but not quite as well defined:

    post-13141-0-72649800-1374602887_thumb.p

    Hexagon is pretty nifty, but still not very well defined:

    post-13141-0-94178500-1374603477_thumb.p

    With the one, you can START to see the pattern mentioned above...but it's not EXCLUSIVE:

    post-13141-0-20638700-1374603988_thumb.p

    I also tried square and octagon...but they didn't give me anything really neat...

    post-13141-0-91284300-1374603010_thumb.ppost-13141-0-00754300-1374603777_thumb.p


  4. I figured this would be solved while I was away over the weekend

    So we have all of the words for all of the lines now. Not really sure where to go next with this...I don't really see much of a relationship between the words.

    I'm guessing we have to do something with the 8-word titles...It's the only thing in eights...not sevens. I noticed that in a few of the titles, there is a word that's really CLOSE to an anagram of one of the words below it:

    His gasses go to a sun by Clarke

    SLACKER (missing "s")

    I never did steal a gem tip sceptre

    RESPECT (missing nothing) or CASTLED (missing "c" and "d")

    Ride faster my son to rest an eon

    FATHERS (missing "h")

    Eric the evil elf is east of Eden

    GRECIAN (missing "g", "a", "n") or DELVING (missing "d", "n", "g") or DESCENT (missing "s", "c", "t")

    It drops as my vision relief goes bye

    FERTILE (missing "t") or VIOLINS (missing "l")

    Rake in one more man to alter luck

    RELIANT (missing "i" and "n")

    it COULD just be coincidence, but I feel SOMETHING must be done with the 8-letter titles...just not sure what.


  5. Basically there was one line left in each stanza that we hadn't figured out...and the only clue we hadn't really used was to apply some sort of "lengthwise" sort...so I did just that based on wordlength and took the first letter of the new list of words:

    A team cut up ornate notched ivory => AUCTION
    Alas no war, o rebel schemes detest => ONWARDS
    No order, lest I cue scared escapee => INCLOSE

    A mixture to each image hue stolen => ATHEISM

    Enact no clumsy tyrant's plot, I say => INSPECT

    Thy younger open up a sinker plumb => AUTOPSY

    Re. outer matrix: spot key, I entreat => IRKSOME

    I think the only one that I don't know the answer to yet then is "A chap, arms Silver, painter, pRoxy 'tween"...haven't figured out how to build up a seven letter word related to PAINTER from that yet...I think all other lines have been solved

    His gasses go to a sun by Clarke

    HUSBAND
    SLEIGHT
    COWBOYS
    AUCTION
    SCOURGE
    SLACKER
    ETERNAL

    I never did steal a gem tip sceptre
    ONWARDS
    BUDDIES
    FERVENT
    RESPECT
    CASTLED
    FIGMENT
    AGAINST


    Ride faster my son to rest an eon
    CYMBALS
    INCLOSE

    PREDICT
    POVERTY
    FATHERS
    ???????
    HARMONY


    Eric the evil elf is east of Eden
    GRECIAN
    DESCENT
    SILENCE

    ATHEISM

    FORGERS

    SALUTED

    DELVING

    It drops as my vision relief goes bye
    FAIREST
    GROVELS
    MORALLY
    INSPECT
    FERTILE
    PARDONS
    VIOLINS


    (We) do go in it to go on
    DRAGONS
    AUTOPSY
    BEWITCH
    MONSTER
    STIFLES
    PROGENY
    MEADOWS


    Rake in one more man to alter luck
    DEMONIC
    PISTONS
    MOBSTER
    QUICKLY
    RELIANT

    IRKSOME

    CAVEMEN

    Unfortunately I am probably done working on this until Monday (by which time I imagine it will be solved)...This has been really fun so far, though! Good luck, all!


  6. They spelunk and with sabre teeth compete -CAVEMEN

    Truth, beauty: whither silent urn ye know'st -GRECIAN (nicely done, DD)

    Mirage leaf, meant to conceal crotch display -FIGMENT (again, thanks for the help, DD!)

    Nice work on the cryptic crossword ones!

    I didn't even catch the hidden words one...those look right, including the SLACKER part...


  7. His gasses go to a sun by Clarke



    The brand a gentleman hath wedded gained HUSBAND
    breaTh weary, swindle, feEble weight, gLimpse see SLEIGHT
    The herders little lads for bovine named COWBOYS
    A team cut up ornate notched ivory
    Kent Summers Veight Nah Grayson Queen Dibny SCOURGE
    badGe bad badgerS lack errant badgeR badE - Example for how to do the list?
    But thy truncated summer shall not fade ETERNAL


    I never did steal a gem tip sceptre

    Alas no war, o rebel schemes detest
    Bane Baltan Master Zim Belloq Bombe Bart BUDDIES
    Answers we offer Ven to Shakespeare's best - Shakespear lines
    Give Godfather this esteem from your heart RESPECT
    bridgeD fort, swapped, famiLy grade, outer parT CASTLED
    Mirage leaf, meant to conceal crotch display
    Proceed the stormy gusts of winter's day AGAINST


    Ride faster my son to rest an eon

    Two metal discs are clashing thund'rous cry CYMBALS
    No order, lest I cue scared escapee
    Portend, ere duct exchanging you and I
    Although thou steal thee all my luxury POVERTY
    With thyself at her solving crossword spree - Solve some as crossword clues
    A chap, arms Silver, painter, pRoxy 'tween
    Weikath Gates Kruspe Mars Linsk Freyberg Malmsteen HARMONY


    Eric the evil elf is east of Eden

    Truth, beauty: whither silent urn ye know'st
    Remove a smell, and recall depths fallen DESCENT
    As victors of my chatter cannot boast SILENCE
    A mixture to each image hue stolen
    Cormon Dix Nesch Braque Manet Dowd Nolan FORGERS
    commenD, fill glUtton, hailed, oiL lightly fry SALUTED
    Bold model vin gris lengthwise sort apply - Need to apply some sort somewhere


    It drops as my vision relief goes bye

    I see descriptions of the foulest wights FAIREST
    Zod Karath Bilefroth Gunray Ming Zedd Kay GROVELS
    aide Role, Or muster, justly, Mouth recites
    Enact no clumsy tyrant's plot, I say
    Words differ til each letter list okay - Build up words one letter at a time
    Forgives mob bosses golfing with no fail
    In orchestras their saw work doth prevail VIOLINS


    (We) do go in it to go on

    Discarding space like flattened rag on seat - Remove spaces from something??
    Thy younger open up a sinker plumb
    Samantha doth to Darren twitch this feat BEWITCH
    King Sánchez Borlaug 'Bride Gyatso Balch Tum MONSTER
    pig celLblocks, smothers, fence scaFfolds, Scarves some STIFLES
    Thy young on generation y are keen
    Kissing with golden face the mountains green MEADOWS


    Rake in one more man to alter luck

    Confused mice nod at trait like Beelzebub's
    brOoch needles, liTtle mesons, valves, poSts deep PISTONS
    Riggs Benson Miller Tyler Hauk Ness Tubbs MOBSTER
    And his love-kindling fire did slowly steep QUICKLY
    One minstrel Ian takes a cryptic leap - something about the cryptic leap??
    Re. outer matrix: spot key, I entreat
    They spelunk and with sabre teeth compete

  8. Alright...so going from my above post, I wanted to figure out the "random" capital letters. I first noticed that the only lines in each stanza with the strange capitalization are ones that are comma-separated "clues"...WITH THE EXCEPTION of the "badGe bad badgerS lack errant badgeR badE" line. In each of these lists, ONE of the clues is ALL LOWERCASE, while the other clues each have ONE capital letter. So I figured this was the "Words differ til each letter list okay". Going with that, I used the badger line as an example to basically start from a root word and build up one letter at a time to yet ANOTHER seven letter word related to the one word that doesn't have strange capitalization:

    bad + E = badE

    bade + G = badGe

    badge + R = badgeR

    badger + S = badgerS

    With that, here are the ones I found:

    First: breaTh weary = sigh...sigh + T = SIGHT (gLimpse see) + L = SLIGHT (feEble weight) + E = SLEIGHT (swindle)

    Second: outer parT = case...case + T = CASTE (famiLy grade) + L = CASTLE (bridgeD fort) + D = CASTLED (swapped)

    Third: ?????

    Fourth: fill glUtton = sate...sate + U = SAUTE (oiL lightly fry) + L = SALUTE (commenD) + D = SALUTED (hailed)

    Fifth: ??? (mouth recites could be "oral" or "orate" or something like that...)

    Sixth: Scarves some = ties...ties + S = STIES (pig celLblocks) + L = STILES (fence scaFfolds) + F = STIFLES (smothers)

    Seventh: brOoch needles = pins...pins + O = PIONS (liTtle mesons) + T = PISTON (poSts deep) + S = PISTONS (valves)

    Whoever came up with this puzzle is sick...keeping all this straight is getting quite cumbersome!!


  9. I also found some 7 letter words in there just from the clues:

    The herder's little lads for bovine named -COWBOYS
    The brand a gentleman hath wedded gained -HUSBAND

    Give Godfather this esteem from your heart -RESPECT

    Two metal discs are clashing thund'rous cry -CYMBALS

    Remove a smell, and recall depths fallen -DESCENT??

    Samantha doth to Darren twitch this feat -BEWITCH?

    Seems a little too perfect to be coincidence...

    EDIT: And another:

    In orchestras their saw work doth prevail -VIOLINS

    EDIT EDIT: Could this be what the line "With thyself at her solving crossword spree" means? These are cross-word style clues resulting in 7-letter words...If that's the case, then I'm guessing these are also clues as to what we need to do:

    First: "But thy truncated summer shall not fade"???

    Second: "Answers we offer Ven to Shakespeare's best"

    Third: "With thyself at her solving crossword spree"

    Fourth: "Bold model vin gris lengthwise sort apply"

    Fifth: "Words differ til each letter list okay"

    Sixth: "Discarding space like flattened rag on seat"

    Seventh: "One minstrel Ian takes a cryptic leap"

    Maybe we have to do one of those for each line in each stanza...although I don't see how the names would fit one of those...maybe "truncating" them to the first letter?


  10. For the Superheroes, one of them has an alternative identity, and as to the one you don't know:

    :) <-bloody

    :o

    You don't recognize Zod???!!!!

    (I'm just kidding lol)

    Taking the first letter of the superhero gives you SCOURGE (Nightwing is also known as Robin)...and Veight is Ozymandias (never heard of that one)...

    So it seems that the names lead to a word that is RELATED to the names themselves (musicians -> HARMONY, superheroes -> SCOURGE)

    I know Zod is superman, which is why I went with "sci-fi characters" in general...but still missing most of that one...

    I think the second spells BUDDIES...and is related (opposite) to the fact that they are all enemies of someone (Batman, Ultraman-had to look that one up for sure, Doctor, Dib, Indiana, E????, Skinner)


  11. Taking the first letter of the band the guitarists play in gives the word HARMONY...that CAN'T be coincidence, especially since it's musical in nature...

    The superheroes I have gives SC?UNGE...which seems CLOSE to a word, but I can't figure it out...

    Don't see how that applies to the police characters or villians yet either...*hmmm*...


  12. after Googling a few of the names to find commonalities:

    First is definitely super heroes:
    Clark Kent (Superman), Scott Summers (Cyclops), ???? Veight (????), Jo Nah (Ultra Boy), Dick Grayson (Nightwing), Oliver Queen (Green Arrow), Ralph Dibny (Elongated Man)

    Still thinking villains for the second:

    Bane (Batman), Baltan (????), Master (Dr. Who), Zim (Invader Zim), Belloq (Indiana Jones), Bombe (????), Bart (Simpsons maybe? some would call him "the bad guy"?)

    Guitarists for the third (as you can tell from my avatar...this one was easy for me):

    Weikath (Helloween), Gates (Avenged Sevenfold), Kruspe (Rammstein), Mars (Motley Crue), Linsk (Overkill), Freyberg (Naildown), Malmsteen (...Yngwie!!)

    Fictional Police characters for the last:

    Riggs (Leathal Weapon), Benson (Law and Order SVU), Miller (Barney Miller), Tyler (Life on Mars), Hauk (The Wire), Ness (Untouchables), Tubbs (Miami Vice)...

    Still working on what that actually MEANS, and trying to fill in the other ones...I found that Gyatso is a Dalai Lama...


  13. There is one line in each stanza that is simply last names:


    Kent Summers Veight Nah Grayson Queen Dibny -These look to be all super heroes...specifically their "normal" names (Clark Kent, Scott Summers, Dick Grayson are the ones I recognize right away)

    Bane Baltan Master Zim Belloq Bombe Bart -Belloq leads me to think Indiana Jones, but not sure about any of the others...maybe enemies? Because "Master" is the enemy of the Doctor, and Belloq is Jones' enemy...

    Weikath Gates Kruspe Mars Linsk Freyberg Malmsteen -I can tell you for sure, these are all guitarists...specifically in the rock/metal genre

    Cormon Dix Nesch Braque Manet Dowd Nolan -Manet leads me to think painters...but I'm not very adept on this subject to know any others...

    Zod Karath Bilefroth Gunray Ming Zedd Kay -Maybe Star Wars characters? (Gunray and Karath for sure...or maybe just sci-fi characters)

    King Sánchez Borlaug 'Bride Gyatso Balch Tum -No clue...

    Riggs Benson Miller Tyler Hauk Ness Tubbs - I'm guessing these are all names of characters that are police officers in movies (Riggs = Leathal Weapon, Benson = Law and Order, Tubbs = Miami Vice...)


  14. that would be a GNU....



    So there we go...that's the "cryptic clue, of an ungraceful ungulate"...

    produce a cryptic clue at first, of an ungraceful ungulate
    GNU
    order words alphabetically.
    When you get all 5 words, put them in alphabetical order
    keep putting in red herrings to pad out the puzzle even when there
    are only about five things you've got to find
    5 words/letters you're looking for
    endlessly drone on with reams of boring text where it is impossible to
    tell what's suppose to be the puzzle and what's supposed to be a
    clue and what is in there because someone is utterly determned to
    have a big rant about something they dislike and half the time they
    haven't spellchecked the blasted thig so you don't know whether the
    mistakes are deliberate or not, until they release errata one hour
    into the competition by which point some smart alec has solved it
    because it's able to be reverse engineered from the metapuzzle
    3 misspelled words in this paragraph (missing a letter each)...gives us DIN
    randomly reorder instructions so the puzzle isn't trivial
    Self-explanatory
    have a set of words with 'precisely' the same length
    All words will be the same length...3 letters...
    initially spell out a clue.
    First letter spells out pokerhighcard...which is ACE
    generate a word by joining the dots, relying on a fiXed width font
    As stated above, this gives us JOT
    hide words, using capital letters
    Gives us FOX
    convert letters to numbers,
    Convert the 3-letter words to number sequences
    and convert numbers to letters
    Once you're done with the below clue, convert back to a letter
    require you to generate numbers from patterns in number sequences even
    though the sample size is too small and it would be totally logical
    to work out the next number but for some arbitrary reason you have to
    calculate the difference.
    Explained in my last post...take difference between the letters instead of the next logical letter...
    demand that you solve all the first stage clues even when one of
    them is much harder than the others and the answer is short cuttable

    using other parts anyway.

    Not completely sure what the short cut would be...

    Using all of the things in bold above, we have:

    ACE = B

    DIN = E

    FOX = I

    GNU = G

    JOT = E

    The answer is BEIGE.



  15. I have the answer:



    BEIGE...

    If that's right, we definitely have 4 of the 5 keys to solving this puzzle...the only part I'm not sure about is the "G"...

    We have ACE, FOX, JOT, and DIN...

    "Convert letters to numbers": ACE = 1 3 5...

    "it would be totally logical to work out the next number"...which would be 7...

    "but we have to calculate the difference"..which is 2...

    "convert numbers to letters"...we have a "B"

    FOX = 6, 15, 24...difference = 9...letter is "I"

    JOT = 10, 15, 20...difference = 5...letter is "E"

    DIN = 4, 9, 14...difference is 5...letter is "E"

    So, if there's a fifth letter, I just tried to find 5-letter words that have BEIE in them...and I can only come up with BEIGE. But I'm not sure how to get a sequence that has a difference of 7 from the puzzle, though. Here are the possible letter combinations (which it should have 3-letters, because of the "have a set of words with 'precisely' the same length" clue):

    AHO, BIP, CJQ, DKR, ELS, FMT, GNU, HOV, IPW, JQX, KRY, LSZ

    So, somehow in the puzzle, one of those should come out...

    This is a fantastic puzzle...


  16. We have:

    ACE, FOX, and JOT...I'm guessing that's 3 of the 5 things that are mentioned.

    I'm also seeing DIN, maybe...because there are 3 misspelled words in the paragraph that talks about them:

    SUPPOSE (should be supposeD)

    DETERMNED (should be determIned)

    THIG (should be thiNg)

    The last part probably has to do with the letters-numbers (and vice versa), and the sequence...from what I initially see, I see these "numbers" in the text: "five", "half", "one", "one"...there's also "first" and "first" in there...

    Another thought I had, was the word precisely has 9 letters and is in quotes...so maybe find all the 9 letter words in the puzzle and they mean something:

    determned
    something
    precisely
    sequences
    arbitrary
    calculate
    Just throwing out some ideas as I come across them...

  17. All of the "periods" in the puzzle are in a single line...with the exception of the ellipses and final period on the second line.



    Not sure yet what it means, but that explains the "generate a word by joining the dots, relying on a fiXed width font" piece...

  18. Assuming there's a 90-degree corner, then the widest moat that's possible to cross is slightly smaller than sqrt(5) / 2.

    Reasoning:

    Lay one board at a 45-degree angle across the outer corner of the moat, and then rest the other board perpendicular to the first such that it lands on the corner on the inside of the moat.

    This gives you a triangle with legs 1 and 1/2, which has a hypotenuse (corresponding to the moat width) of sqrt(5) / 2. The actual width has to be a little less than that, since you lose some length of the board in the process of bearing on the ground and on the other board.

    I'm not really sure how to post a quick MS Paint image to make it clearer...

    Here's what you're describing, I believe...

    post-13141-0-88569700-1374154796_thumb.p


  19. ...but when they met in the park, they would be the same distance to the school (give or take a few feet).

    Without more information, we can't determine who LIVES closer to the school...but the fact that they met in the park means they were together, therefore the same distance to the school at that time.

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