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#1 bonanova

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Posted 17 December 2007 - 07:50 AM

After disappointing Black Friday sales, management at Grinch's Toy Store found a way to boot profits.
Following an approach used in some amusement parks, GTS now sells coupons, which customers then use for payment at checkout.
The store's inventory comprises 22 toy models, each clearly marked with a unique, whole-dollar price.
Coupons are available in $6, $9 and $20 denominations.

Grinch's strategy is threefold.

[1] At checkout, extra coupon value is forfeit; no change is given.
Example: your total at checkout is $5. You pay with a $6 coupon. Grinch's keeps the $1 change.
[2] Prices have been set to ensure there is extra coupon value when toys are bought singly.
[3] Each toy model is limited one to a customer.

Your task is to visit Grinch's, browse the shelves, and find the minimum number of toys which, when bought together, using coupons, will ensure a fair purchase at checkout.
That is, there will be no change for Grinch's to keep.

This just in - Grinch's heard you were coming.
Fearing your intellectual prowess, they have replaced all price tags with UPC stickers, which only the checkout register can read.
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Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:41 AM

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 07:20 AM

You're on the right track.

If you select just one toy, you know Grinch will keep some of your money. He's priced them to ensure that.
If you select two toys they might turn out to be say a $2 toy and a $4 toy, and you could buy them exactly with a $6 coupon.
But since the prices have been removed, you don't know this until you get to checkout and then it's too late.
If you're going to select just two toys, you'd have to know that every combination of two prices can be paid exactly.

So that's what has to be found: if you bring N toys to checkout, there definitely won't be any change for Grinch to keep.
What is the smallest value of N?
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Posted 19 December 2007 - 11:23 PM

I think this is it
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:21 AM

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:23 AM

I think this is it

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 12:35 AM

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:17 AM

After disappointing Black Friday sales, management at Grinch's Toy Store found a way to boot profits.
Following an approach used in some amusement parks, GTS now sells coupons, which customers then use for payment at checkout.
The store's inventory comprises 22 toy models, each clearly marked with a unique, whole-dollar price.


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Coupons are available in $6, $9 and $20 denominations.

Grinch's strategy is threefold.

[1] At checkout, extra coupon value is forfeit; no change is given.
Example: your total at checkout is $5. You pay with a $6 coupon. Grinch's keeps the $1 change.
[2] Prices have been set to ensure there is extra coupon value when toys are bought singly.


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[3] Each toy model is limited one to a customer.

Your task is to visit Grinch's, browse the shelves, and find the minimum number of toys which, when bought together, using coupons, will ensure a fair purchase at checkout.
That is, there will be no change for Grinch's to keep.


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This just in - Grinch's heard you were coming.
Fearing your intellectual prowess, they have replaced all price tags with UPC stickers, which only the checkout register can read.


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Posted 20 December 2007 - 06:13 AM

I got the $15 average by averaging the prices in my first post.

[3] Each toy model is limited one to a customer.

I missed that, so my guess of 30 is wrong.

Since we are not told how many coupons of which denominations we have


I assumed as many cupons of each denomination as necessary were available, so long as we didn't let grinch keep any money. So 4 $6's and a $20 would be fine (just as a random example).

buying any eight toys is enough to guarantee no leftover money

I think you are missing the point. The point is to not let grinch have any money, not to max out the total amount of one cupon of each denomination. Martini debunked 8 as the number.

Still working on it... :mellow:
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Posted 20 December 2007 - 06:29 AM

I got the $15 average by averaging the prices in my first post.


Ahh, I see. But I there's no requirement that the toys must start as inexpensive as $1.
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