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#1 bonanova

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 05:53 AM

Morty's was uncharacteristically staid last night. Alex was wearing a Tux, for one thing!

Gather round boys, and try to come up with some things ya may never have learnt,
back in yer book learnin' days. While ya may have thought that poems were poems
and novels were novels, the dirty little secret around literary circles is that novelists
sometimes "borrowed" quotatons from the better poets to use for book titles.

Some might call that plagerism - I wouldn't mind ya - but I did find five instances of
what others might call the sincerest form of flattery by some pretty well known blokes.
Places where poetry was shamelessly raided, just to find a catchy book title.

Here, take a look.
And he spread out the following poetry excerpts with the book titles asterisked out:

[1] Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord; /
He is trampling out the vintage where *** ****** ** ***** are stored

[2] *** **** *** ******* *****'s ignoble strife /
Their sober wishes never learned to stray

[3] How beauteous mankind is! O ***** *** ***** /
That has such people in't

[4] For fools rush in ***** ****** **** ** *****

[5] Had we but ***** ****** *** ****, /
This coyness, lady, were no crime

A cold pint to the bloke who can come up the names of the five poems, their poets,
the titles of the five novels [the asterisks] and their novelists.

Have fun!
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:30 AM

Wonderful! I love intertextuality.

Spoiler for solution

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:38 AM

As an aside, I know that Star Trek is famous for this too. I think one episode is named for a Dylan Thomas poem. There are several others. We discussed it once in a class back in my college daze.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:45 AM

Just another little aside. I had a professor once claim that every piece of Western Literature known could be traced to the Bible or Greek Mythology through intertextuality.

Now THAT would be a great puzzle to solve! Kind of a Literary Six Degrees of Separation.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:46 AM

Tip of the hat - and a frosty mug - to the Eng Lit major!

I think there's a next-level puzzle built into this.
Can't use it here, cuz the cat's already outta the bag ... but ... maybe somewhere else ...
wouldn't it be kewl to list the five poets and the five novelists and then ask
the solver to pair them up and say why/how the two are linked in each case.

Re: your 2nd post: One pair then could be Gene Roddenberry and Dylan Thomas ... excellent!

And your 3rd post: The final pair would be ... Zeus and Yaweh?

Get some sleep, WB.
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