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# What is Correct

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### #11 comperr

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Posted 05 June 2007 - 10:20 PM

I must reiterate that seven plus five is thirteen are correct - even though the sentance is false.
In enlgish there is a difference between true and correct.
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### #12 strikefiend

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 03:33 PM

The reason we would say that seven and five are something and not seven and five is something is simply because the "and" in between them makes us assume that they are grouped together and we wouldn't say the apple and orange is fruit. We would say the apple and orange Are fruit. Since the wording of this puzzle is at question we assume it's an English based question so Math based rules wouldn't apply to it. Now, if the question had "solve this math question" before it, then we would have to assume math rules apply and wouldn't worry about the English rules and we'd immediately call the question wrong do the adding error.

So, either we make the question more specific or we make our answer more broad. We could ask them to solve the math problem, like I've stated before, or we can answer the question by saying "Seven and Five ARE Thirteen".
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### #13 larryhl

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 04:01 PM

this is a classic riddle, where the premise is that as the math is incorrect, neither statement is correct. please don't make it a grammar problem...
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### #14 comperr

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Posted 06 June 2007 - 05:19 PM

The reason we would say that seven and five are something and not seven and five is something is simply because the "and" in between them makes us assume that they are grouped together and we wouldn't say the apple and orange is fruit. We would say the apple and orange Are fruit. Since the wording of this puzzle is at question we assume it's an English based question so Math based rules wouldn't apply to it. Now, if the question had "solve this math question" before it, then we would have to assume math rules apply and wouldn't worry about the English rules and we'd immediately call the question wrong do the adding error.

So, either we make the question more specific or we make our answer more broad. We could ask them to solve the math problem, like I've stated before, or we can answer the question by saying "Seven and Five ARE Thirteen".

This is exactly what I have been saying.
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### #15 normdeplume

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Posted 20 June 2007 - 10:33 AM

The original Puzzle / Riddle that I heard was:

'which is the correct Statement, 'The yolk of an egg is white' or 'the yolk of an egg are white''

The answer is niether statement is correct as the yolk of an egg is yellow.

This removes some of the arguements that a couple of the more pedantic responses replied with.

The question is not which is grammatically correct, it is which complete statement is correct. Hence the answer.
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### #16 comperr

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Posted 20 June 2007 - 02:05 PM

the adding of the word statement changes a lot. Without it, due to choice between to logically similar statements that differ only in grammar, it must be assumed that "which is correct" is asking regarding grammar. "Which is a correct statement?" removes this implication and thus resolves the difficulty that we had. Maybe the original question should be altered.
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### #17 Mythx

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 08:32 PM

The answer to "Is it correct that seven and five is thirteen or seven and five are thirteen?" is, without any doubt, both. "seven and five is thirteen" is mathematically correct and "seven and five are thirteen" is grammatically correct.
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### #18 comperr

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 08:58 PM

um 7 +5 = 12; not 13 Mythx
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### #19 lukegaru

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 08:18 PM

neither is correct 7+5=12
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### #20 Duff

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Posted 04 July 2007 - 02:37 PM

Why would it ask for correct mathematical statement when the answer is clearly wrong?

If it is a grammar question about math then 7 and 5 IS 13 because 7+5 is one mathematical expression.

If it is a grammar question of items then 7 and 5 ARE 13 because 7 and 5 are considered different items and AND is not use as operator but as conjunction.
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