Those who actually believe that simple bread is better than eternal bliss are welcome to their bread. I'll take the Eternal Bliss, thank you very much. I think it really ought to be obvious to any reasonable person that the basic assertion is founded upon bad logic.
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 05:15 PM
Well, if you restate the paradox, I believe it is no longer a paradox.
Instead of saying nothing is better than eternal bliss, you would say "There is nothing that is better than eternal bliss." See, 'nothing' is not better than eternal bliss, because nothing is a bad thing when said in context with the slice of bread. What is better than eternal bliss does not exist, or there is nothing that is better, but 'nothing' itself is not better.
Does anyone see any problem with my solution?
Instead of saying nothing is better than eternal bliss, you would say "There is nothing that is better than eternal bliss." See, 'nothing' is not better than eternal bliss, because nothing is a bad thing when said in context with the slice of bread. What is better than eternal bliss does not exist, or there is nothing that is better, but 'nothing' itself is not better.
Does anyone see any problem with my solution?
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 03:32 AM
This reminds of the famous saying "Practice makes perfect, but since nobody's perfect, why practice?".
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 02:22 PM
What is better - eternal bliss or a simple bread? - Back to the Paradoxes
What is better than eternal bliss? Nothing. But a slice of bread is better than nothing. So slice of bread is more than eternal bliss.
This isn't so much a paradox as it is a false logical deduction based on two completely unrelated truisms.
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 03:13 PM
as I already mentioned a few times - it is a sophismThis isn't so much a paradox as it is a false logical deduction based on two completely unrelated truisms.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 02:03 PM
What is better - eternal bliss or a simple bread? - Back to the Paradoxes
What is better than eternal bliss? Nothing. But a slice of bread is better than nothing. So slice of bread is more than eternal bliss.
1.) A slice of bread is better than nothing.
2.)There is nothing better than eternal bliss.
But if one reads the above carefully(edited by me) the word NOTHING can be read in two different ways
Something is better than nothing
Eternal bliss cannot be compared to anything nor can anything be better than eternal bliss.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 01:06 AM
Two ways i reckon this can go...
a) dont think any further, be happy with what you have... bread!
or
b) i dont see nothing being anything so something cant be better than something that isnt there so theres nothing to be better than or at.
really it seems to be a pun (if thats the right word) on the eng lang.
I prefer a tbh
a) dont think any further, be happy with what you have... bread!
or
b) i dont see nothing being anything so something cant be better than something that isnt there so theres nothing to be better than or at.
really it seems to be a pun (if thats the right word) on the eng lang.
I prefer a tbh
Edited by Chris_thinks...., 18 February 2008 - 01:06 AM.
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Posted 15 March 2008 - 03:52 PM
I like the twist on words, but if I look at it correctly, when you say "nothing" it should be given 2 meanings.
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Posted 17 March 2008 - 02:38 PM
Restate the first part: where nothing is better than eternal bliss. Change it to everything isn't as good as eternal bliss. It has the same meaning so I'm not changing anything. Since bread is included in "everything", then Bread isn't as good as eternal bliss.
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Posted 18 March 2008 - 10:20 PM
This paradox assumes that "nothing" functions as an object.
1. Nothing is better than eternal bliss.
2. Bread is better than nothing.
That makes eternal bliss the best thing possible.
Nothing is a void, not an object.
1. Nothing is better than eternal bliss.
2. Bread is better than nothing.
That makes eternal bliss the best thing possible.
Nothing is a void, not an object.
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