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Best Answer Barcallica, 21 August 2014 - 06:13 AM

How about this one.

 

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#1 Yoruichi-san

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Posted 19 August 2014 - 09:08 PM

"Gooood morning, inmates of Braingate Denitentiary!  And what a morning it is, my fine felonious fellows, for I have riveting news!  Now, I know you were expecting the warden to give his usual morning announcements, but, well, he's...otherwise occupied...hoohoohoo..."

 

"Umm...I tink we mighta used too much gas on the warden, I tink he's kinda...dead..."

 

"Not now Harley!  I'm. Doing. The. Announcements."

 

"Sow-wy, Mr. J."

 

"Anyhoo...where was I?  Oh yes.  Riveting news!  I hope you are enjoying your morning walk around the prison yard, it will be your last!  Yes, that's right, no more outrageous orange accouterments, mounds of mystery mush, or hoarding cigarettes for bartering after today!  Isn't that a blast?  Hoohoohoo..."

 

*Psss...*...*Psss...*...*Psss...*...

 

"Hello?  Am I back?  What happened?  Oh, nevermind.  As I was saying, in fifteen minutes the prison guards, who I believe you'll find to have developed a much more...cheerful demeanor..."

 

"Yeah, cuz we dosed 'em with Joker gas!  Keke..."

 

"Harley!"

 

"Sow-wy."

 

"The prison guards will escort you misunderstood miscreants back into your cells, where you'll each to assigned a number representing the order (within your cell block) in which you will be executed at sundown today.  Hoohoohoo...however, to make things fun, if every evildoer in your cell block can tell me the every other evildoers' numbers, I will let you go free, off to terrorize the streets of Gotham to your hoodlum heart's delight.  But don't be thinking of cheating now!  Hoohoo...no talking to each other...that would make it too easy...or doing anything out of the ordinary.  If the gayly grinning guards catch you, you'll all be executed on the spot!  Hoohoohoooo...that will be all!" 

 

*Psss...*...*Psss...*...*Psssssssssssss...*...

 

"Well...that's a development.  There are five of us in the cell block, and our cells are all in a row, so there goes any chance of seeing each other.  And if we try some knocking scheme, we'll probably get caught, seeing as how the walls are pretty thick and we'd have to be knocking pretty loud to hear each other, which would probably alert the guards.  What do you think, Bainanova?"

 

"Hmmm...well, Sbarcrow, I believe you are correct about the knocking or noise-making scheme, but perhaps there are some options we have that aren't 'out of the ordinary'?  Any ideas, Plainguin?"

 

"The way the plumbing is wired, I can hear when my neighbors on either side flush the toilet or turn on the faucet.  Maybe we can use that?"

 

"But if we start flushing our toilets or turning on the water every few seconds, don't you think they're going to notice something's off?"

 

"Good point, Plasin Ivy.  But we have until sundown, so maybe if we spread out and minimize the number of actions required, we can get away with it?"

 

"Sounds like as good a plan as any, TSLFace, now how to go about it..."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:53 AM

I am sure there is a better way but.

 

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 02:10 PM

Is it obvious which of the two neighbors is using the plumbing, or are they indistinguishable?

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 04:49 PM

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Posted 20 August 2014 - 07:40 PM

 

Is it obvious which of the two neighbors is using the plumbing, or are they indistinguishable?

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Yes.

 

Hmm...good question.  Technically from experience, lol, I find the toilet flushing tends to drain out the sound of the faucet, but for the sake of the problem, let's say yes.

 

 

 

I am sure there is a better way but.

 

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Don't sell yourself short out of fear. ;P

 

That's a good solution, but you run into a problem of...

 

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Good idea, but same issue here of distinguishability. 

 

I was having a little too much fun in the OP *whistling*, so let me rephrase the goal: you are trying to minimize the number actions while making sure each string is clearly distinguishable, regardless of time.

 

 

 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 02:42 AM

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:08 AM

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As you may have deduced ;), the inmates are not your run of the mill prisoners.  They are half logical genius and half psycho/product of a freak accident/experiment gone awry, and so their perception of time (and the world in general *whistling*) may be skewed in different directions ;P

 

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:15 AM

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Posted 21 August 2014 - 04:41 AM

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Cute, I said you could hear when the faucet turns on, but that's not necessarily the case for when it turns off (from experience there's usually a gurgle at the beginning and then smoothness that kinda fades)...and I never said that all the toilets flush at the same speed all the time...it's an old prison ;).  


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Posted 21 August 2014 - 05:38 AM

Sorry, technically what I should say is that we're looking for a time interval independent solution, i.e. it should not matter whether you wait a minute or an hour between actions, or whether or not you wait the same amount of time between actions, the information encoded should be distinguishable ^_^.  


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