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Is there ... Presence, and Future?


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#1 wolfgang

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 03:33 PM

I was in my way to do shoping when I looked at my watch, it was 10:12 a.m.,and the seconds were moving on contineously.
I asked myself , what time is it now?
Then I went further in my question,,,is there any time we can called it (now)?
Anything happened in a millisecond moved to be a part of the past, and so on...
So there is NO presence and NO future, but only PAST.
According to my theory...we are living at the edge of infinty travelling contieously to the past.
Am I right?
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 05:35 PM

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:20 PM

Now I know why Einstein adorns your avatar...:dry: :P

Spoiler for childish, confusing, yet it's my view...

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 06:26 PM

no. what i think is a moment no matter how short. has to be a moment (the present) before it can be "moved to be a part of the past"

if you really think about the present is the only thing that truly exist.
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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:42 AM

Then I went further in my question,,,is there any time we can called it (now)?
Anything happened in a millisecond moved to be a part of the past, and so on...
So there is NO presence and NO future, but only PAST.

We define the past as the things that happen before the present, the future as the things that happen after the present. If there is no present, how can there be a past of future?

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 02:30 AM

I was in my way to do shoping when I looked at my watch, it was 10:12 a.m.,and the seconds were moving on contineously.
I asked myself , what time is it now?


It was 10:12 a.m. and some seconds. We don't have the equipment (or the need) to know much more accurately then that.

Then I went further in my question,,,is there any time we can called it (now)?


Yes. It's called "now." Do you want a practical numerical way of describing "now"? It's 10:12 a.m. Or do you want an exact down to the split-nano-second way of describing "now"? Then why?

Your argument is like saying, "Can you measure a split trillionth of a millimeter? No? Then there is no distance, just stuff behind me!"

Anything happened in a millisecond moved to be a part of the past, and so on...


Only because a new moment is "now." If the millisecond moment didn't move to the past, time would not be moving.

Your argument is like saying as you drive on the highway, "That last mile marker was here and then gone. Every mile marker will just pass right by. There must be no road in front of me!"

So there is NO presence and NO future, but only PAST.


So something that will happen but hasn't happened yet... is in the past?

Am I right?


No.

According to my theory...we are living at the edge of infinty travelling contieously to the past.


Well okay, yes, whatever happens always goes into the past (according to our human perception). But that's just a fact about what time is.

Edited by psykomakia, 07 July 2012 - 02:37 AM.

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

I suppose it works the way that space does. Space is ever expanding, I guess time does the same thing in a more linear way, maybe.
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Posted 07 July 2012 - 10:30 PM

So could we say that only our perception of the past and future change but we don't move through time?
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 02:23 PM

Dear friends...I am happy hearing your ideas,,,,but when I think about my own body, each cell in my body become older after any nano-second of time,so I can not say I am " good" now....when is that(NOW)?!
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Posted 08 July 2012 - 11:58 PM

Look. There is an instant in time that you are currently experiencing. Even if it is so short you can't say the word "Now" in it. But it exists, and you are experiencing it. The time when you started reading this post, that's the past. The time when you finish reading this sentence, that's the future, and I added this bit so it will have been the future when you read the first clause. Past, present, future. The end.
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