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Interesting one - A Cat and A mouse


Best Answer EventHorizon, 05 July 2012 - 02:30 AM

(Hint: don't look for the curve, just examine the distance between them and how it changes with time)

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I'll try (again) to find the equation for the path in a bit.
Edit: I thought I'd include the last equation I got, but kept failing to verify. So I don't know it if is correct.
Spoiler for Maybe the path?
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#11 Yoruichi-san

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:06 PM

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Oops, making a correction. I want the x-component, not the y-component. Also, I realized this whole thing might be easier if I put in terms of theta(t), instead of X(t). Will try when I have time.
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Posted 04 July 2012 - 08:35 AM

Maybe
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Edited by mewminator, 04 July 2012 - 08:37 AM.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 03:28 PM

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 02:30 AM   Best Answer

(Hint: don't look for the curve, just examine the distance between them and how it changes with time)
Spoiler for Answer for the speed of the cat


I'll try (again) to find the equation for the path in a bit.
Edit: I thought I'd include the last equation I got, but kept failing to verify. So I don't know it if is correct.
Spoiler for Maybe the path?

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 05:55 AM

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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:05 PM

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I found a mistake in the derivation, so my equation is wrong. I accidently omitted something which made it much easier to solve, but incorrect.
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Posted 05 July 2012 - 09:49 PM

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Further correction. Somehow I always inadvertently put a - instead of a +... :duh:

Haven't had a chance to further work on a solution, though. I'm thinking u-sub or trial and error (guess the general form of the solution and then solve for constants).
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Posted 06 July 2012 - 08:03 AM

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:14 AM

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Posted 06 July 2012 - 10:49 AM

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That seems to tie a bow on it.

Below is a plot of
A your catenary equation
B my catenary equation
C your final equation quoted above [plotted vs 1-x to make curves congruent]
D my simulation of a thousand points using n = 1.618033989 to make cat and mouse arrive at [1,1] simultaneously.


The light blue arrow is the mouse's path, at unit speed.

C and D are indistinguishable, lending credence to both and casting doubt on the catenary hypothesis.

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