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The Witch's Epigraph Chapter 1: The Room of Six Locks
Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:31 AM
Perhaps we should investigate the type of lock on the door.
There are some that require a key to both lock and unlock the door, some require a turn of a deadbolt (which can only be done when the door is closed), and there are some door locks that can be locked and then closed (locks on the handles, like in bathrooms).
Posted 19 January 2012 - 08:49 AM
rvc113 didn't notice that the boy's attack had restored his rose, and so his truth was not made into a strike in blue. Yet for some reason, the Witch jumped a little on hearing it. Of course, the Witch gave no such reaction to Aziraphael's statement, as the 'pencil and eraser' guess had already taken off half the rose and could do no further damage on its own.
The next attack came from plainglazed:
SeaCalMaster made the next move:
If rvc113's words provoked some defensiveness in the Witch, TheChad's provoked even more.)
Edited by WitchOfDoubt, 19 January 2012 - 08:52 AM.
Posted 19 January 2012 - 09:40 AM
EDIT: I don't think the key was ever confirmed as a 'key' like we might imagine.
Any object can be considered a 'key' if it opens the lock. We know that it is a material object, but no confirmation that it is traditional key shape.
In my above scenario a pencil could be considered a 'key' for unlocking the door.
Edited by TheChad, 19 January 2012 - 09:42 AM.
Posted 19 January 2012 - 10:47 AM
"The thief couldn't get into the room until after the librarian locked up for the evening!"
CRASH. The Witch caught his blade and twisted it to the side, then swiped off his rose.
"Not only could the thief enter the room before the door was locked... the thief actually did! However, they chose not to steal the ribbon at that time."
Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:15 AM
"Details of the lock?" said the Witch, gamely. "Very well! I'll supply them in red!"
The cylinder for the door lock was mounted in the outside handle, where "outside" is the direction leading out of the room where Dudeney was.
No deadbolt was present.
For fire safety reasons, the door handle would still turn from the inside even if the door was locked. However, this was not necessary for our culprit's plan!
The librarian held an ordinary, physical key. Turning that key in the lock would lock or unlock the door.
Let us go further: nobody picked the lock! This includes pushing an object through a hole in the doorknob in order to unlock it!
As nobody picked the lock, only using a key in the manner described above counts as "locking the door" or "unlocking the door" for the purpose of the Red Truth. For example, "nailing the door shut" would not count as locking it!
Edited by WitchOfDoubt, 19 January 2012 - 11:22 AM.
Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:50 AM
I agree with rvc113 for the most part, but i believe we're missing something...
Edited by Aziraphael, 19 January 2012 - 11:53 AM.
Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:55 AM
the Witch opened a door and was greeted at once by Dudeney, ever the loyal butler."
Just thinking in print, not going out of turn.
Posted 19 January 2012 - 12:48 PM
Spoiler for Have a go with....
WoD has already classified the nature of the Study (which we have walked into ourselves).It must be a room, it has a door, a handle, a lock, and being as Dudeney is a physical prescence, he couldn't be contained within your suggestion.
However, it does occur that the passage you mention could imply
Edited by Aziraphael, 19 January 2012 - 12:48 PM.
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