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# Hard Grid Puzzle

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### #41 ragh

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 05:08 PM

I'm just musing here...

We know Pickett's updated chart (8,7,?,4,1,?,?,2,?) agrees with a segment of fibonacci sequence taken mod 9 (the first row values are in bold):
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,4,3,7,1,8,0,8,8,7,6,4,1,5,6,2,8,...

The fibonacci sequence mod 9 doesnt appear to fit into 180 cell 9x20 grid using 0's or 9's.

The 2 double 4's in column 5 and the 2x 9's in row 4 and 8 are sticking out to me. Is it a trap or was it put there to assist with solving the puzzle.

The 4 double numbers in rows 1, 3 and 5 is sticking out to me. Is it a trap or was it put there to assist with solving the puzzle?

Is it likely that there are at least 2 or maybe more identical rows?

The 5 scattered 9's in the grid is a clue maybe and put there for a reason. Is it possible they are the only 9's in the entire grid?

Do we fill in the grid from top to bottom someway or do we start from the middle and work our way out?

I removed the letters on top because they are no longer required.

Edited by ragh, 01 October 2011 - 05:10 PM.

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### #42 Molly Mae

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 06:27 PM

Is it likely that there are at least 2 or maybe more identical rows?

I came to the same conclusion based on the 4 ? ? 9 and the stacked 4's.
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### #43 ragh

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Posted 02 October 2011 - 09:40 PM

I've reached out to a mathematics professor with a Ph.D. Maybe he might be able to shed some light or offer some insight into this enigma.
Surprisingly he responded right away and said he will take a look at it tomorrow. If he can't shed any light on this, then who can?
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### #44 ragh

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:11 PM

<<<is pulling his hair out and going .
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### #45 Wilson

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 09:22 PM

Spoiler for Playing around with......

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### #46 ragh

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 03:45 PM

Spoiler for Playing around with......

You are probably right Wilson. The "Hulahup..." title is meant to give us 2 hints. The first is tied into the "Hup Hup Hup, Barbatruc" french saying when Barbapapa is shapeshifting. The second hint probably implies that the puzzle is solved by multiple number sequence circle (Hula hoop) patterns. The problem is figuring out how to fit it into the grid in a way that the next row is determined by the previous rows numbers, working are way down to the bottom.

The following words from the puzzle description keep replaying in my head...

"the right choice"s" and "logic" will be required to fill in the grid.

What kind if choices?....starting seeds (numbers)?....direction?...shape?...etc.

The puzzle obviously goes from top to bottom...the big question is how.
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### #47 Wilson

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 09:03 AM

Spoiler for Maybe a bit too contrived.....

A4 B7 C1 D2 E7 F9
Sorry, don't seem to be able to attach or paste my grid.

Edited by Wilson, 10 October 2011 - 09:08 AM.

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### #48 ragh

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:30 PM

Spoiler for Maybe a bit too contrived.....

A4 B7 C1 D2 E7 F9
Sorry, don't seem to be able to attach or paste my grid.

Interesting idea Wilson and i appreciate your efforts. It's too bad the coordinates N45 26.471 W75 44.279 put you on private property in someones backyard.
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### #49 yurtsu

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Posted 27 October 2011 - 05:43 PM

Had any more luck with this? Just curious to know if your professor figured it out. It sure is a tricky one!
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### #50 brain

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:57 PM

Any luck with this puzzle?? I also have been looking at this for quite sometimes and I am still scratching my head...

The owner says that here is no needs to rearrange anything.

""Il faut juste remplir la grille et la première ligne (celle avec les lettres en couleur) est le point de départ. Vous n'avez pas besoin de "remettre en ordre" quoi que ce soit. Les colonnes et les lignes doivent demeurer telles quelles.""
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