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#21 araver

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:20 PM

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Indeed you found a loophole.
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It is not what I intended with the puzzle, but I need to think on an alternate setting that would allow for a full indoor solution.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:22 PM

More clarification:

Suppose that an infected member is in a room with a non-infected unconscious member, presumably he would need an excuse to touch the unconscious person. What would the infected member say about the result of his scan?

What happens when you connect two conscious crewmember together, one of which is infected, and the other being non-infected?
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 05:58 PM

More clarification:

Suppose that an infected member is in a room with a non-infected unconscious member, presumably he would need an excuse to touch the unconscious person. What would the infected member say about the result of his scan?

He would need an excuse. Saying that the scan is positive and the unconscious needs to be cured is one such excuse.

What happens when you connect two conscious crewmember together, one of which is infected, and the other being non-infected?

Odds are the infected one will manage to infect the other without you figuring it out. It's not 100% certain but it's the worst case scenario you can expect (as I imagine that once the second is infected he will not say he was touched by the other).
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 07:32 PM

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 07:40 PM

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 07:52 PM

He would need an excuse. Saying that the scan is positive and the unconscious needs to be cured is one such excuse.


Odds are the infected one will manage to infect the other without you figuring it out. It's not 100% certain but it's the worst case scenario you can expect (as I imagine that once the second is infected he will not say he was touched by the other).


Well, if that's the case, then here's a strategy,
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:44 PM

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I like the quarantine-type solution yet it has one small flaw: you cannot be sure that an infected person actually injects himself with something. (low quality video and all).


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Same flaw as in another strategy above: you cannot trust the serum from a room where an infected person was in as it might have already been tampered with. And think of an extreme case of tampering: it might actually contain blood samples from infected people.
1) Non-infected people will not refuse a serum they know it's been tampered it if you pair-up infected people.
2) If you pair an infected with a non-infected, you either give each other serum from the other's room (in which case you cure the infected and potentially infect the other one due to previous tampering) or give each serum from his own room (therefore not curing the infected at all).
3) Non-paired member can still be infected.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:56 PM

Well, if that's the case, then here's a strategy,

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:rolleyes: I admit, while creating the problem I was thinking of building on the same previous problems. Therefore your solution is very similar to what I had in mind. :thumbsup:
I do not know if a different type of strategy exists (different i.e. exploits a different aspect of the problem).

As I got carried away with writing the setting for the problem as a contamination scenario and forgot to check for loopholes, I also have to credit Jobe17 for finding an alternative solution.
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Posted 21 December 2010 - 01:05 AM

:rolleyes: I admit, while creating the problem I was thinking of building on the same previous problems. Therefore your solution is very similar to what I had in mind. :thumbsup:
I do not know if a different type of strategy exists (different i.e. exploits a different aspect of the problem).

As I got carried away with writing the setting for the problem as a contamination scenario and forgot to check for loopholes, I also have to credit Jobe17 for finding an alternative solution.


Just read Jobe17's solution. Wish I thought of that. Thanks for the superbly constructed puzzle. I really enjoy it. It was devilishly challenging/fun to work through.
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