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#11 araver

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Posted 19 December 2010 - 10:33 PM

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 02:18 AM

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 02:39 AM

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 04:59 AM

Some clarification please:

1) The OP indicates that video and audio communication are available between you and all areas. That seems to imply that you can simply pose questions to the crew members and have them respond. Does that mean that the non-infected crew members will act as truth tellers? Would the infected members then act as random answerers?

2) Suppose that a crew member is infected, and then is cured by a serum. Would he know that he was infected last round?

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#15 araver

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 08:58 AM

Some clarification please:

1) The OP indicates that video and audio communication are available between you and all areas. That seems to imply that you can simply pose questions to the crew members and have them respond. Does that mean that the non-infected crew members will act as truth tellers? Would the infected members then act as random answerers?

2) Suppose that a crew member is infected, and then is cured by a serum. Would he know that he was infected last round?


1) Yes :thumbsup:
- Non-infected crew members act as truth-tellers.
- Infected members don't act random, they choose their responses adaptively to suit their interest (i.e. may try to act as truth-tellers - stick with their lies)
And a bonus clarification: they don't really know which of them is infected.

2) No. Infection may work as temporary subtle mind-control.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:18 AM

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A clarification: an infected person can scan and report whatever suits him best (i.e. he can either lie or tell the truth).
But an infected person indeed jumps on the opportunity to infect an unconscious person (this is their only deterministic flaw).

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:33 AM

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Clarification: An infected person will not always say that another is clean. Each infected person acts as an independent agent of infection. You must not assume he has a greedy strategy that always protects the others he infects (he might sacrifice one and say they're infected when they are infected) and he can also choose to frame someone who is not infected or not to frame him in order to alleviate suspicions on him.

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Posted 20 December 2010 - 09:42 AM

To make your strategies easier to explain you can use the following base diagram:
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Alternatively, if you want a neutral / central location, you can assume one as well
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 01:01 PM

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I am starting to second guess my solution now, as I am starting to see how:
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I shall sleep on this one and return later.
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Posted 20 December 2010 - 04:03 PM

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